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The legendary Super Mario Brothers Movie
He was the best part of that movie.
It sure as shit wasn't the Goombas.
only when they're dancing.
This scene will live on in my memory forever.
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He, Dennis Hopper as Koopa and John Leguizamo as Luigi formed a sort of over-the-top trinity.
I still maintain that if they had scrapped everything related to Super Mario Bros and just made it a movie about two New York plumbers fighting the mob like the first half hour, it would have been a much better product.
My understanding is either the writer or director had a movie about alternate dinosaur world and when approached for the mario movie they used it to make their original idea with little to do with mario left
Tim Burton's Batman was still a huge movie on people's mind. The directors wanted a dark-and-gritty Mario movie while the studio wanted a family-friendly movie.
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That's high praise.
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Did all the people in the area come to him for advice on not growing alfalfa?
The best part is when it predicted 9/11.
Mario Mario
Luigi Luigi?
Luigi Mario
Those damned... PLUMBERS!!
Where's my pizza?!
Mario Mario and Luigi Mario, the Mario brothers!
Unironically good movie. Dated a bit but peak soul.
I saw it as a child so I thought it was pretty good. It ended on a little cliff hanger so I kept waiting for the sequel to come out, I didn’t understand that bad movies didn’t get to have wide release sequels
As an aside I dont think ive ever seen any other bigger budget films or show that just completely swerved away from the tone and the story of the source material in the same extreme way. I know in stuff like The Shining and Starship Troopers the directors changed what the stories are about but kept the broad strokes of things in the books, this was more like 'Plumbers and lizards? Say no more'!
Don't forget the fungus!
Khrushchev in Enemy at the Gates.
"I WANT THEM TO STOP SHITTING THEIR PANTS!"
"Do you know any heroes around here?"
God I can hear those lines in my head.
Both excellent movies.... Both presently relevant!
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Hook
I love that he and Hoffman decided to play off of each other as if Hook and Smee were an old gay couple, without informing Spielberg.
He starred in a film called The Long Good Friday that is just amazing. 97% on Rotten Tomatoes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B90zNzyFk-w
The final scene is famous, but the whole movie is good.
The film is used in some introductory script writing courses and it's not hard to see why
“Helen Mirren makes a classy mistress”
He was also in Last Orders, one of the few films ever that can reliably make a grown man cry
Dun du duduh duuuu dududududuuuuuu
Looks really good. I've never heard of it before. Definitely going to give it a watch
He really was a phenomenal actor.
Ah fuck, I think I forgot a sad fact.
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Added, and happy cake day!
Mermaids, with Cher, Winona Ryder, and Christina Ricci was the movie I watched him in the most.
No mom! The town already has one!
Start with Mona Lisa.
Was the first person envisioned to play Wolverine at one time. Very talented actor.
He's the best actor no one remembers they know.
Character actor. I would argue Gary Sinise is a better example.
Nobody thinks about Gary Sinise.
Common fancast for Penguin for a long time too
He plays Pink's agent in The Wall
Hah, totally forgot about this (I haven't seen The Wall in probably a quarter century or more).
The one time I got busted by the parents with a friend smoking weed at home as a teenager, we had been watching that movie. I didn't get in any real trouble.
Come in here, dear boy, have a cigar, you're gonna go farYou're gonna fly, you're never gonna dieYou're gonna make it if you try, they're gonna love you
Check out "The Long Good Friday"
He was smee in Hook
What about Smee? Smee, Smee, Smee. What about Smee? Wait, Smee’s me! What about me?
"Lightning just struck my brain."
"That must have hurt."
And then again in 2011s Neverland miniseries.
Last Orders
Heart Condition
Watch the long good Friday. The final scene is Hoskins at his absolute finest.
He had surprising range despite looking like an English Danny Devito (and that's not a besmirch on Devito) he did comedy and drama in equal measure and his dramatic roles ranged from cocky mob boss in Long Good Friday to creepy pedophile in Felicia's Journey to somewhat innocent bystander in Mona Lisa. He was equally at home in surreal things Brazil or kitchen sync or pure slapstick like Roger Rabbit. Seemed to be genuinely loved in acting circles too.
If you like martial arts stuff, look up a movie called Unleashed which has Hoskins, Morgan Freeman and Jet Li.
He actually looks more like Al Capone than De Niro.
Mario movie too!
Hook! And long Good Friday etc but Hook has to be the biggest global hit.
> Hook! And long Good Friday etc but Hook has to be the biggest global hit.
Bigger than roger rabbit?
Bigger movie IMO, Roger Rabbit was a bigger role though. Both were a big part of my childhood.
The Criterion Channel currently has a curated collection of some of his best work, so a great place to go for that.
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Mario Bros.
Try Last Orders. As a bonus it also has Michael Caine, Amy Mirren, and Roy Winstone.
Unleashed with Jet Li is a fun movie also
You absolutely should, someone mentioned “The along Good Friday” but you may want to also check out other movies by Handmade films (George Harrison’s production company he made to finance Life of Brian). He produced some amazing films and a lot of them had Bob Hoskins in them
https://collider.com/george-harrison-the-beatles-movies-handmade-films-monty-python/
You must see The Long Good Friday. He plays a gangster trying to go legit who picks a fight with the IRA
Bob Hoskins. The “bench player who never checks in” of Hollywood.
Bob "Chase Daniel" Hoskins
Dudes been on like 1/4 of the teams in the league.
No Josh Johnson. I think he’s bearing in on signing to half the teams in the league
How is it even possible to be on 4 different rosters in one season. Jesus. And you’re right. It is half the teams in the league.
This comment cut so close I had swiped back to escape its truth, and then had to come back and find it again just to say this.
That dude...I think he watched the first season of Blue Mountain State and really took it to heart.
Alex Moran
Ubobis Hoslem.
Bob Hoskins probably would have been a better casting.
Was just thinking the same thing. DeNiro in the movie just looks like DeNiro with some makeup, Hoskins could have looked the part.
My first reaction. He looks more like Al Capone.
That said, recently heard an interview with James Cameron and he said he almost didn’t cast Kate Winslet as Rose in The Titanic. The reason being she’d been making a name for herself in period pieces and was being called Corset Kate. He thought if he cast her, it would be “lazy casting“ and was going to go for someone like Gwyneth Paltrow. Had no idea there was such a thing as lazy casting.
It's also called 'type casting' , where an actor is cast in a role because they've made a name for themselves in a similar role before. The Rock I feel is typecast a lot. One of the things where he wasn't was Ballers.
Is that the one where he was a drug addict muscle head with Markie Mark?
No Ballers was an HBO show where he played an ex football player with a pain killer addition who becomes a financial manager with the bald guy from Hot Tub Time Machine.
Nah that was pain and gain
thats Pain and Gain. Ballers was an HBO series
He's Dwayne Johnson!!!
Black Adam is just how he sees himself.
Also Southland Tales where all the characters were consciously cast against type. The Rock plays a cowardly, anxious actor. It's a terrible movie, but the casting and performances are interesting. Also notable is Jon Lovitz plays a scary, casually violent corrupt cop.
That's neat. I'll have to hunt it down.
Entusiasms…
I love De Niro but I was just thinking this.
I wish people would pay me thousands of dollars to NOT do stuff.
That sounds like a dream job.
To be fair Hoskin wasn't paid for "not doing stuff".
He was paid for being a marketable, talented actor and for potentially having unwanted downtime. Less marketable and talented than De Niro but enough so that he was worth paying to have as a second choice.
I wouldn't say less talented than DeNiro.
Less marketable for sure.
I know that's a high bar, but Hoskins could act.
It still seems like a stupid decision and I hope the money came out of De Palma’s OWN WALLET and not counted as production costs. You pay people to do a job, not pay them IN CASE something happens. That’s why Hollywood is so hated because they pull this kind of shit .
>You pay people to do a job, not pay them IN CASE something happens.
I'm gonna guess you've never heard of insurance?
Or the Emergency Room
Or the Fire Department
I’m gonna guess that you’re an idiot.
Tell me you lost an argument on reddit without saying you lost an argument on reddit. Gg champ, better luck next time.
The role of Capone was pretty critical to the movie. De Palma couldn't risk having some idiot who didn't have any work come time to shoot so he took $200k of the production cost to ensure that no matter what, the shoot could go ahead. It's not that wild.
A delay in shooting would have cost considerably more money. Seems like a smart move to have a contingency plan.
Unless you’re the producer it’s not your money so why would you care?
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You're going to lose your head when you find out play or pay contracts are pretty standard in Hollywood.
The whole main cast of Westworld just got paid for a fifth season that will never happen for instance. Billy Dee Williams famously had one for Harvey Dent / Two Face in the early '90s.
Look at it as insurance money, in case the big actor can't make it.
They kinda did pay him to not pursue other projects while De Niro was up in the air. No one hates Hollywood for this.
He was paid to be 'on call' in case he was needed. That happens millions of times every day.
Nobody in the world besides you cares about someone getting paid for a pay-or-play contract. Hell, it's a part of the Animaniacs opening.
Its basically a retainer. They werent sure if they could get De Niro and wanted a guranteed back up that was acceptable. And actor isnt going to turn down work with out compensation.
Major Major's father was a sober God-fearing man whose idea of a good joke was to lie about his age. He was a long-limbed farmer, a God-fearing, freedom-loving, law-abiding rugged individualist who held that federal aid to anyone but farmers was creeping socialism. He advocated thrift and hard work and disapproved of loose women who turned him down. His specialty was alfalfa, and he made a good thing out of not growing any. The government paid him well for every bushel of alfalfa he did not grow. The more alfalfa he did not grow, the more money the government gave him, and he spent every penny he didn't earn on new land to increase the amount of alfalfa he did not produce. Major Major's father worked without rest at not growing alfalfa. On long winter evenings he remained indoors and did not mend harness, and he sprang out of bed at the crack of noon every day just to make certain that the chores would not be done. He invested in land wisely and soon was not growing more alfalfa than any other man in the county. Neighbors sought him out for advice on all subjects, for he had made much money and was therefore wise. “As ye sow, so shall ye reap,” he counseled one and all, and everyone said, “Amen.”
Thanks, gotta dig out a paperback now.
It's kind of like paying a firefighter or a soldier to be ready to go at a moment's notice.
I would have loved to see Hoskin's take on Capone. De Niro is great, but he's also De Niro -- a force unto himself.
Hoskins is a mob boss in The Long Good Friday. Its close enough.
Also in Unleashed
He played mob boss Owney Madden in the 1984 film The Cotton Club.
> Enthusiasms!
Reminds me of when A-list Hollywood screenwriters would attach themselves as director to a script, even if they didn't want to direct it.
The studio that won the bidding war for their script would then pay them an additional $200,000 (or whatever) if they would agree not to direct it.
Nice work if you can get it.
Oh you mean those “A list” writers who happen to get 30 percent on rotten tomatoes and then see their movies bomb? Lol.
Hollywood is a joke and I’ve made half-assed efforts of getting in and I will probably never get in because I simply don’t have the connections. Being sent rejection notices for unsolicited material makes me laugh and just reminds me the industry is all just a “rich boys club”.
>Oh you mean those “A list” writers who happen to get 30 percent on rotten tomatoes and then see their movies bomb? Lol.
A movie is never going to be better than its script, and there are 100 ways it can go wrong once the writer is done writing.
>Hollywood is a joke and I’ve made half-assed efforts of getting in and I will probably never get in because I simply don’t have the connections.
I knew nobody when I moved to L.A., but I eventually landed an assistant job at an A-list prodco by learning the ropes and using my charm and intelligence to make myself memorable.
Unfortunately I was not a good enough writer to break through, but that part was on me.
>Being sent rejection notices for unsolicited material makes me laugh and just reminds me the industry is all just a “rich boys club”.
Sending unsolicited material shows that you don't know a damn thing about how Hollywood actually works. Maybe you should learn, as a first step.
I know you didn't ask, but I'm gonna DM you my script. I think it would be perfect for Chris Pratt.
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Forget it, I think we're 'loosing' this argument.
Yeah, 'your' probably 'write'.
Thank you. It's incredible how often it's conjugated incorrectly. As someone else wrote it's possible it's going to be seen as acceptable soon... :(
Conjugate the verb "to go".
To go. He goes, she goes, they venture forth.
But "Romans go home" is an order, so you must use the…?
Imperative!
Which is…?
Go
How many Romans?
Brilliant. Thank you for reminding me of that. I always loved that part.
I wish I was smart & old enough to have taken Latin. This is my favourite part of every film I have seen, but I'm just dont have the brain to comprehend what they're doing. 😞
Nope. There’s multiple meanings to the word “cast.” One meaning - the one used here - is to assign the roles to actors. Past tense of that is “casted.”
The meaning you’re likely reading - to be assigned a role - uses “was cast” as its past tense.
Bob Hoskins was cast.
Brian de Palma casted the film.
Past tense of cast is cast though?
Casted is an incorrect past tense conjugation of the verb cast. Since cast rhymes with other past tense verbs like passed and gassed, you can use the rhymes as a reminder that it can function as its own past tense conjugation.
I literally just finished the DePalma documentary (it's on Tubi). Fascinating man. Best part was hearing how Sean Penn treated Michael J. Fox on Casualties Of War.
They had full time snake guys hired to chase snakes outta the set.
They really didn't address how the soundtrack to Scarface was so fucking bad and so fucking good at the same time though.
Is that the docu where he talks through all his films from first to last?
Yes indeed.
The Long Good Friday was an excellent film. He was good in "The Wall". I know Hook wasn't well rated but he was a great Smee.
>I know Hook wasn't well rated but he was a great Smee.
You better watch what you say about that masterpiece!
Don't try to stop me Smee!
Stop me smee
Hell, he was a great Mario too.
He was no Lou Albano, but he was pretty darn good.
The final scene does it for me. His face runs the gamut of human emotions & just accepts he is well fucked but he did his best.
Wow, The Wall, that's some Hoskins "deep cuts" completely forget he was in it, but yeah he was definitely right in that role
He was nearly perfect. Hoffman however was fucking flawless.
I loved Hook.
My favorite moment in any movie, is the moment in Who Framed Roger Rabbit, where Eddie smiles at Betty Boop because she's "still got it". Hoskins is a GOAT.
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5 star reference
What’s the reference to Leaping Lanny?
When Randy signed with WCW, he insisted they signed Lanny as well. Got checks for 6 years, never had to wrestle
If there's one thing Turner was good at, it was paying guys who didn't deserve it way too much money. And in the end, it almost worked. They almost killed WWF. Macho finessed the shit out of him with that deal, though.
And the Macho Man WCW contract was subsided by Slim Jim, because Randy was in their commercials.
At one time they bought a trademark for the name Gorgeous George with the thought of having Lanny work under that name.
Instead they gave the name to Randy Savage’s midlife crisis stripper girlfriend and the wrestler who sold the name got a WCW gig as “The Maestro”
Too bad they didn't go with Hoskins. De Niro was a terrible Capone in an otherwise fantastic film.
Dinero is too subtle and intellectual for Capone. Hoskins had the just-under-the-surface threat of explosive ignorant violence that would have elevated his Capone.
No, he just phoned in what I consider to be one of (if not the) shittiest performances of his career. Everyone else killed it in that movie and Di Niro acted like some Dick Tracey cartoon character. Just awful.
He was good in Zulu Dawn. Awesome flick.
Two great videos from the BBC Archive about Bob Hoskins,
Thank goodness for pay-or-play contracts.
Same thing happened when Johnny Depp was let go for the Fantastic Beasts sequel. Since he wasn't fired for cause, they had to pay him per his contract.
Nicolas Cage as Superman lol
He got paid for that?
Wow. All things considered, that's probably the best $20 mil WB ever spent.
I think Denzel getting paid his full salary twice on American Gangster (once when it was greenlit but fell apart just before shooting, and then again when it came back as a Ridley Scott joint) is still the greatest pay-or-play exploit ever.
Not sure why you would say thank goodness?
Is there anything positive about that? Sounds like another rich people cant fail scheme…
Pay-or-Play requires that the person be available for that block of time, so if they could have been making another film and lost their going rate because of the Pay-or-Play falling through, they get paid regardless, because it may be too late to get attached to another project.
It seems ludicrous but it makes sense when you're dealing with people at this level and talent having to pencil in months on their calendar when they've booked work.
John Carpenter commented he could've made a perfectly fine living in Hollywood writing and selling scripts that never got anywhere near being greenlit. Just being paid well to write things maybe ten people would read.
Loved him as Mr. Smee.
This was the time when DeNiro was experimenting with vampirism, so sometimes he wouldn’t appear on film.
He had to be really careful too, werewolves can kill vampires.
I recommend Jamie T video.for the song Sheila. Bob Hoskins play a grieving father throughout mime rapping Jamie T's immense song.
Nice. And I'm not normally the guy who does thus online, but this one is one of my biggest pet peeves...there is no such word as 'casted'. The past tense of cast, is cast.
Can you explain either:
Or
?
Doesn't this support my point?
Actually it supports both. The word casted is technically correct circa the 14th century. It is starting to come back, but the common usage is cast. So you're right on a technicality, and I'm correct on common usage. But you know what, at the end of the day it doesn't really matter. You do you.
Not casted, just cast.
I'd not be in their movie for $175,000 and that's my final offer
Fantastic.
Bob Hoskins used to stay at the spa I worked at in England. Really nice guy.
I wish they'd gotten Danny DeVito to play Capone. Would have been hilarious!!
You mean like this? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vF5Q8pArXKk
How aboit an irishman in a fat suit…?
Ha, that's a funny story. I love that film but I'd be lying if I said I'd not like to see another version with Hoskins.
And then Brian got him back by recommending he play Super Mario…. Aka Hoskin’s lymphoma
Bob Hoskins' misogynist racist creepy Iago in the BBC Othello (with Anthony Hopkins' moor) is about the best thing he did...
You know, I'm somewhat of a bench actor myself.
Good God, I remember watching that movie soooooo many times on the VCR in my parents basement when I was a kid.
Nice to see some love for Hoskins
Funny how different dimensions pan out,
De listers gotta stick together
nowhereman136 t1_ixx0xi7 wrote
I really only know Hoskins from Who Framed Roger Rabbit, but I keep hearing stories about him and think I should look up his larger filmography