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wijnandsj t1_je8wesv wrote

Ok, I'll bite. Why the fasting?

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samaxe1000 OP t1_je9gnm5 wrote

For me, trying to lose a few pounds for an upcoming summer trip. So far I lost 10 pounds.

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Arsenic0 t1_jeacaqa wrote

I thought you fasting because of Ramadan for a moment since it started last week

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samaxe1000 OP t1_jeagfr5 wrote

Nope, its so I can wear speedos at the beach

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Arsenic0 t1_jeajzbz wrote

Bless you I laughed so hard XD

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samaxe1000 OP t1_jeaxt7c wrote

Mediterranean beaches and southeast asia with Europeans - common to see speedos. I might as well join in.

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Mosamania t1_jeaydxq wrote

And IF he is fasting because of Ramadan, would you still downvote his post?

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Arsenic0 t1_jecfp3e wrote

No, BTW I'm fasting Ramadan myself

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Mosamania t1_jee1bm8 wrote

Awesome, me too. Sorry if I sounded accusatory but reddit generally has a hard anti-religious tendency that I find unpleasant. Good on you mate.

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thatcarolguy t1_jeaa4o3 wrote

Nothing wrong with a fast here and there but if it is just to lose weight fast the vast majority will be water.

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samaxe1000 OP t1_jeaag6f wrote

Not true if in ketosis. Ketosis is when your body depletes all GLYCOGEN (sugar carbs) and uses body fat as fuel. For me, I lost some fat cells so far just by breathing.

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thatcarolguy t1_jeah5s2 wrote

Your body burns fat and muscle whenever you are in a caloric deficit of any type. The benefit of a fast for quick fat loss is that it is the fastest (outside of extreme endurance exercise) way to burn fat. If you could burn 3500 calories per day (which is probably a bit more than you really do but a nice number because....) it would mean that you burn the equivalent of 1 pound of fat per day (though some of it will be muscle). There is nothing magical about ketosis that can make you burn more fat than the amount of energy you expend in a day.

If humans (who are not suffering from extreme morbid obesity) could lose 10 lbs of fat from fasting for 2 days then our species would have gone extinct long ago.

Also, you don't lose fat cells, you just reduce the amount of fat stored inside of them.

Do you reject the idea that you are also shedding large quantities of water due to glycogen reserves being depleted?

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MDZPNMD t1_jebdwfk wrote

It's true. Burning fat is your bodies reaction to a caloric deficit in the absence of glycogen storages or carbs in general.

When you fast your glycogen gets depleted, 1g of glycogen binds 5g of water so you'll mostly lose water during the early stages of fasting and afterwards ketosis starts and breaks down your muscles and fat.

With a high caloric deficit the body will also start to break down muscles more than fat because it thinks you're running away from the British again and those pescy muscles will only use up more energy in the future so it is more efficient to get rid of them primarily instead of the fat too outlast the british.

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If you want to lose fat long term it is not a great method, you should strive for a medium to low but constant caloric deficit.

Intermittent fasting can be an alternative for you if you like fasting. In general all that counts for diets is that you have a caloric deficit but not to much to slow down metabolism.

I know we are all unhappy with our bodies sometimes and always look for quick and easy ways to achieve our goals but for losing weight naturally we haven't found one.

Maybe give the intermittent fasting a shot, works great after getting used to it and helped me to lose 15kg in a year after the lockdowns, also helped my godmother to go from big chonker to chubby.

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squiggling-aviator t1_jebk1oi wrote

You lose muscle if you're not exercising. I actually was able to gain in the gym during keto.

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reticulatedjig t1_jebubrh wrote

Second intermittent fasting! I don't do it for weight loss, that's a side benefit, I like it cause my energy levels are consistent throughout the work day. I cheat on Saturday though, love breakfast foods too much, so I'll have breakfast then my normal meal around 6

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squiggling-aviator t1_jebjmvf wrote

Be careful not to hit it too hard. Keto diet is still my go to for readjusting my body fat percentage. It works so well once you get past the keto flu. You just gotta balance your calorie intake as well.

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samaxe1000 OP t1_jebkbfe wrote

Electrolytes with potassium is the secret to the flu. I eat new york strip steaks and salads. 700 calories. Its hard to over calories in keto unless you cheat.

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Maneisthebeat t1_je9h1nn wrote

Is this for BODYBUILDING? As I'm not sure in what other sport you need to FAST so aggressively?

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samaxe1000 OP t1_je9hypm wrote

Maybe some do. Arnold wrote about ketosis and fasting when he competed. But I think others rely on diuretics drugs nowadays. My ex roommate took chembuterol drugs to shredd for competition. Probably not healthy way.

GSP is vocal about fasting too.

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Mosamania t1_je8x6tf wrote

Fasting is the perfect way to lose weight quickly. There are multiple fasting regiments, one of which is the 48 hour fast. I am currently doing a 72 hour fast regiments broken then by a large meal followed by 72 hours for the next month.

It's been two weeks and I lost 15 Lbs should be around 25 to 35 Lbs a month in this regiment. It's not easy, especially if you are just starting out, but as you get used to it is extremely easy and doable, you just have to be careful regarding your micronutrients needs during your meal.

There is a 5 day regiment followed by two open days, but I get weak and dizzy by the 4th day as I am not used to it enough, so for now the 72 hours regiments will do fine.

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TheFrator t1_je9zi8k wrote

Shoutout to 18:6 intermittent fasting for keeping me sane these past few years. Helped me lose some weight a few years ago. Ofc it’s CICO, but IF worked best for me.

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MikeDaUnicorn t1_je8z9wk wrote

It's not only for losing weight. I am fasting pretty regularly for mitochondrial biogenesis and autophagy. In other words, for longevity.

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Mosamania t1_je90qbe wrote

There is still not enough data on this subject to be officially scientifically supported as it pertains to humans specifically, so I will not he fasting for those reasons. But I do have enough data that says it will do away with my gut, so I'll take that for now, if it comes with longevity then that's a bonus.

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No_Analysis6187 t1_je9anfd wrote

That's an express ticket for hypoglycemia

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Mosamania t1_jea0j9s wrote

Fasting is just snake oil and the weight loss is just placebo. You only need an apple dongle to lose weight.

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