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JJ12622 t1_jau10wv wrote

Death threats from followers of Jesus really drive this whole thing home

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cpr4life8 t1_jau1h1i wrote

Surprising no one

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lyfe_is_a_nyghtmare t1_jau4tme wrote

These are the same people that threw a fit when school prayer was finally outlawed.

Rules for thee but not for me!

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SupercarEnjoyer0 t1_jau8a48 wrote

My mom and a couple other church moms got my science teacher to skip the evolution chapter in a town of about 1,200

It’s ok though, I learned it anyway

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Impossible_Garbage_4 t1_jayk42d wrote

Prayer wasn’t even outlawed, really. Students can pray all they want, it’s just that teachers can’t make and lead a prayer time

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Important_Egg_6748 t1_jav7xp2 wrote

I might of mis-read the article but it says it was one person and his name is Ceu Uk. Doesn’t say anything about him being Christian or part of an activist group. Just wondering where your information came from?

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pizzapantifa t1_javw0bi wrote

Bro did you really just try to "it's severely unlikely that a man who called in a shooting threat over a club named "After School Satan Club" is a Christian. Especially when his name sounds so foreign-y!" us?

*might have

*misread (it's one word)

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/northampton-county/2023/02/north-carolina-man-threatened-to-shoot-saucon-valley-school-over-after-school-satan-club-da-says.html

>“He stated the After School Satan Club is trying to turn kids into devils, and he found out about it on Facebook,”

Please list non-secular organizations that are concerned about "trying to turn kids into devils".

Fucking plug your ears and close your eyes some more.

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baron_von_noseboop t1_jawl0al wrote

"Well then all I can say is that he is not really my kind of Christian. I'm the kind of Christian that doesn't believe Asian people belong in my church."

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Important_Egg_6748 t1_jb9kg4x wrote

Just a simple question. Where did you get your information from? No need to get all fired up. You are making all the implications, not me. How do we know he isn’t a non-denominational mentally I’ll person living in his mom’s basement?

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pizzapantifa t1_jb9t5aw wrote

Just a simple question. Why are you so invested in convincing people that the guy who threatened a school for having a club with the name "Satan" in it isn't associated with christianity?

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Important_Egg_6748 t1_jbe3n4q wrote

I’m not trying to convince people of anything. If he’s a Christian activist, great, I don’t care. I am open to that. You on the other hand are not open to anything other than the fact he is with zero supporting information.

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Important_Egg_6748 t1_jbe4vh4 wrote

It is scary when people want to yell and scream in an attempt to silence. Yell and scream when somebody asks a legit question that the answer to might go against their their developed narrative. I answered your question. I am not trying to convince anybody of anything. Just seeking the truth….nothing I’ve said so far is persuasive either way. Now can you please answer my question. Where did you see information that says this guy is a Christian?

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Gonzostewie t1_jau6idf wrote

Satan out here doin god's work.

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btm4you3 t1_javhfeu wrote

god's will or is it god's plan . . . so confusing at times

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imjustatechguy t1_jaw07vy wrote

I mean, he used to be an angel. Maybe he's likes "this shit is so fucked up that I need to make people smarter".

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Pink_Slyvie t1_jawiqlg wrote

The evolution of Satan in Hebrew mythology is fascinating. It just meant "The adversary", and didn't start to take the modern meaning until influences with other religions.

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Modestkilla OP t1_jau2rci wrote

I for one wish the club was actually about satanic worship. These knuckleheads that were calling in threats don’t even realize it had zero to do with that. It would take all of 30 seconds to google what the club is about. Anyway I hope this club comes back and most importantly hail satan.

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TurnipTaint t1_jaui7jr wrote

Researching the facts is not their strong point. Hence the religious beliefs.

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Aezon22 t1_jaufli1 wrote

The only people who believe in a literal satan are christians.

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GracieThunders t1_javasrp wrote

Saucon deez nuts

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PA1985 t1_jaudmdm wrote

“Hail Satin”

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BeatsMeByDre t1_javzi76 wrote

So, was the After School Christian Club cancelled too? Isn't that the point?

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IamSauerKraut t1_javrjk3 wrote

ACLU says "it could."

Is this really what they said? Or did the author engage in lazy passive-aggressive writing?

Either shit (sue them) or get off the pot (stop issuing meaningless statements).

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Weary_Ad7119 t1_javtf8i wrote

Media pressure is incredibly helpful to pressure their position before they go to court.

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nikc4 t1_jaw2jeb wrote

If you read the article, the ACLU is giving them until noon March 7th to fix it themselves. They could. They might not have to.

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imjustatechguy t1_jaw0fdz wrote

They're clearly too busy putting pressure on the current school board of CBSD. I should know, I used to work for them up until last week.

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tinymonesters t1_jaw4rfj wrote

It's a lot cheaper to rattle your sabre than it is to begin retaining lawyers and filing the suit. It's worth it to see if the threat gets the same results.

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tehmlem t1_jaw3rr0 wrote

Do it, fuck em up!

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Sunni_tzu t1_jauljz8 wrote

It's it's Hellertown FFS. God must have put it there for a reason. /s

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xxcountingdownxx t1_jayd5dw wrote

Eh. It’s more of a melanoma on the back of the Lehigh Valley. The town was built up by white steelworkers from Bethlehem Steel. Literally Sears and Roebuck houses.

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PickelPaint t1_javztin wrote

Damn, I wanna be in the Satan club

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here-i-am-now t1_jaww633 wrote

"I don't think any religious-based clubs or thoughts should be placed in our school,” said Jessie.

So does Jessie get it or it’s the a massive r/woooosh?

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CoalCrackerKid t1_jaxafk3 wrote

Choosing to die on this hill doesn't help district kids. SVSD will blow $ on this whole "culture war" nonsense that they could have, instead, chosen to spend on the kids. The best that they can hope for is to find a right-wing law group who'll work for them in exchange for the free publicity (which will lessen damages, when they come, but not make them 0...see Kitzmiller v Dover SD).

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drxdrg08 t1_jax7sk2 wrote

Maybe ACLU should spend their efforts somewhere else. Like suing someone to change the fact that ⅔ of kids in the largest school district in the state can't read at grade level?

I thought education was a human right?

Injecting themselves into some situation with a satan club seems like an absurd waste of resources. Kids in Saucon can read.

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FuzzyWuzzyFoxxie t1_jaxfw0t wrote

High or decent quality education isn't a right in the United States, so they cannot do that.

Freedom of religion, separation between church and state, and freedom of speech are established and protected rights in the United States with legal precedent.

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insofarincogneato t1_javljeg wrote

I'm stuck on "could". Like, what does that mean? Are you going to? Let me know how that shit goes.

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wellarmedsheep t1_jaw6pqf wrote

Everybody is posturing, ASS, the superintendent, and the ACLU.

The Super, who serves at the consent of an elected school board in a conservative area needs to appear to push back against "the devil"

The ACLU is asking the super to blink. "Do you really want to do this?"

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FuzzyWuzzyFoxxie t1_jaxfd33 wrote

It's cheaper to threaten to sue and have the issue resolved than to immediately sue.

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SirLoinOfCow t1_jaw2134 wrote

This sub is unhealthily obsessed with this particular story. We need to pin it and have one megathread.

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Jasontheperson t1_jawdk6b wrote

Take it up with the "Christians".

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SirLoinOfCow t1_jawk31r wrote

Ok, I just did. They said "What is a subreddit? What are you talking about?"

That got me nowhere. I'll check back in tomorrow when this is posted about again.

BTW, I never expressed an opinion on the subject. I'm just saying, of all the things happening in PA, this thing is getting disproportionately brought up.

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Jasontheperson t1_jaxq8qp wrote

>I never expressed an opinion on the subject. I'm just saying, of all the things happening in PA, this thing is getting disproportionately brought up.

We know, it's a thing called concern trolling.

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SirLoinOfCow t1_jb60uzj wrote

Hey, what's the latest on this story? It's been a few hours.

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mkinn01 t1_javz290 wrote

Tax dollars will go to fighting this ridiculous law suit. There are so many great causes the ACLU can use its resources on. Stupid shit clogging up the system. Please don’t tell me it’s a free speech issue . Just some rich kids that are bored.

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Jasontheperson t1_jawdgrt wrote

It's clearly a free speech issue?

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mkinn01 t1_jaweowy wrote

Ok, let me pose this question to you. If say I was a student at this school and wanted to start the let’s say “Christ Club” and I was turned down (as I should be) Do you think the ACLU would come to my defense and say it is a free speech issue? If the answer is yes then I will agree with you.

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susinpgh t1_jaworl0 wrote

The ACLU has defended Christians in the past for 1A rights:

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-defends-christian-who-distributed-religious-pamphlets-outside-arena

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mkinn01 t1_jax7u18 wrote

2014

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mkinn01 t1_jawqokk wrote

The ACLU has defended Nazis in the past as well but now they pick and chose their cases. which seem to only be cases on the left.

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spiraldistortion t1_jay2goc wrote

The whole point is that the school in this situation does have a Christ club. If they cancelled all religious clubs, it would be equal treatment, but they didn’t.

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here-i-am-now t1_jaww9rw wrote

Yes.

The ACLU has defended far more odious causes including Illinois Nazis

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