Submitted by MarvelsGrantMan136 t3_zaralz in television
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k00zyk t1_iynh4rv wrote
I liked Surface (2005)! It was the most interesting Lost-like that came out.
Rusty_Shakalford t1_iynw7rs wrote
Man I would love to see a retrospective on all the Lost-knockoffs that came out in the mid-00’s.
davidrabbich t1_iyo8ypg wrote
As long as it contains 10 minutes of people laughing at how on the fucking nose naming a show “flash forward” was when it came to its inspirations
ThatEvanFowler t1_iyoghxo wrote
It even bled into shows that ostensibly shouldn't have even been that. Under The Dome was completely undone by Lost envy. And then they started firing showrunners every season only to hire new showrunners that would immediately abandon the previous one's plots and plans and then do that again like five more times. It was almost amazing how committed that show was to being a trainwreck.
MadeByTango t1_iyoi2jv wrote
Mostly it would just be about the writer’s strike that almost killed off scripted tv and ushered in the reality tv era for ad based channels. Life with Damien Lewis is the one I wish would have survived to an end.
Stuckinthevortex t1_iyojoak wrote
It'd be nice if they could actually get some of the writers to answer the questions they set up on those shows
Rusty_Shakalford t1_iyolh53 wrote
You know that really would be. I got really into the first season of Heroes… wonder where they were going with that originally?
jackjacksley t1_iyoob6b wrote
Was supposed to be a new cast of characters every season apparently
reddig33 t1_iyooy8m wrote
What a lost opportunity. (Excuse the pun)
ThatEvanFowler t1_iyog742 wrote
Eh, I liked INVASION better, but Surface was cool too. I'm just all about some William Fitchner and he seemed like he was having so much fun in William-Fitchner-Loves-Being-A-Pod-Person mode.
Timmaigh t1_iyqm6dk wrote
They were both great. Invasion had probably better cast/acting, but i liked the mystery/story of the Surface more, the way it kinda moved from sort of scifi mystery and family show through conspiracy thriller to catastrophic show in the end, it was fairly entertaining to me.
horseren0ir t1_iyq3hjs wrote
I liked the trailer for The Event, but it just didn’t come together very well, same with Revolution
reddig33 t1_iyoovkp wrote
Invasion (again the one on ABC, not AppleTV) was the better show. I keep hoping someone picks it up and reboots it some day.
Also, “Invasion”, “Surface” — what’s up with AppleTV re-using old show titles from the 90s? Did they buy a studio that owned these names already or something?
TurncoatWizard t1_iyon1sp wrote
Nobody has mentioned The River yet and now I have. Lovingly.
aridcool t1_iyr7xdy wrote
That show was, well it wasn't great. I did watch all of that season though. Then again I also watched all of Siberia on NBC.
bigmacjames t1_iyno0wo wrote
Never got to see why they were digging holes
KatrinaPez t1_iynv2jc wrote
Yeah this is the first I've seen of a new one, got my hopes up lol. Sigh, I still want an electric kitty lizard for a pet.
Dohi64 t1_iysz0pf wrote
that show was awesome, major cliffhanger too from what I recall. they were planning a 3-season thing and only got 1. it had carla gugino too and overall was much better than invasion and that other one that came out that year and was also about aliens.
xOLDBHOYx t1_iynp36b wrote
I will watch Gugu do anything
ResplendentShade t1_iynzet4 wrote
On the off chance that you haven’t seen it, check her out in the Emmy winning episode of Black Mirror, San Junipero. One of the best pieces of television even written/filmed imo, and she’s enchanting in it.
xOLDBHOYx t1_iynzogw wrote
Ohhhh for sure. One of the best. I really enjoyed her in The girl before on HBOmax too. She’s such a talent and stunning too
ode4minerva t1_iyo0lyc wrote
Check her out in Belle on HBOMax too
ode4minerva t1_iyo1vs9 wrote
Will be checking this out. Thanks!
Funmachine t1_iyro7s7 wrote
Weird someone would downvote you and OP for sharing interest in her work.
ode4minerva t1_iys7gid wrote
I down voted you? Not much experience here so not sure why
Funmachine t1_iyssbhe wrote
No, you and the comment above.
Archamasse t1_iyoepek wrote
My one pop culture fairy godmother wish is to get to see San Junipero on a cinema screen somehow someday. I think it's absolutely stunning, not least visually.
Mbatha-Raw is incredible in it, as is Davis.
JohnnyAK907 t1_iyocpzo wrote
I want to say that, but she was so god awfully bad in The Undercovers, along with that human ken doll Boris Kodjoe.
thx1138a t1_iyok16o wrote
I so so agree
momansensei t1_iyqklf7 wrote
>One of the best pieces of television even written/filmed
Redditors try not to overhype things as much as possible challenge
ResplendentShade t1_iyqtcq7 wrote
>One of the best pieces of television even written/filmed imo
Important context. It’s how I genuinely feel, I’m not stating it as some immutable truth.
momansensei t1_iyqucyl wrote
I don't believe you feel this way
ResplendentShade t1_iyquw9r wrote
Yeah, I’m anonymously lying about my personal preferences concerning a television episode that came out 6 years ago to a tiny anonymous audience in a low traffic Reddit thread, because reasons. Busted! Nothing gets by you, chief.
momansensei t1_iyqvqe2 wrote
Now you are speaking some truth.
SQUID_FUCKER t1_iyra7yi wrote
You could say you're gaga for Gugu.
xOLDBHOYx t1_iys2e1h wrote
Guilty
VitaLonga t1_iyn3xlr wrote
Oof - an awful ‘thriller’
preppytarg t1_iyn8017 wrote
I watched the first episode or two and it was so cliche it felt like that Kristen Bell thriller, except it wasn't a satire.
Archamasse t1_iynfldb wrote
This show doesn't quite sing for me but I would watch Gugu Mbatha-Raw scrub mildew off shower grout for 8 hours, so I'm glad it's been renewed.
Chambersmith t1_iynt6th wrote
Show got progressively worse as more was revealed. By the end, I found Gugu’s character to be utterly despicable and her quest for answers to be entirely unworthy of attention.
Thereisnocomp2 t1_iyod0pz wrote
Hard agree— she became awful at the end and you realize she isn’t just stuck in a classic protagonist “I’m the main character” role, she’s just an actual sociopathic narcissist
2DragonBalls t1_iyok5vm wrote
That was the problem for me as well. I found myself actively rooting against her by the end of the season. And not in a fun way like Succession or Game Of Thrones.
It’s too bad, because Gugu is a fantastic actor. The script was just dogwater.
Thereisnocomp2 t1_iyomr30 wrote
Yeah the writing didn’t lean into her being an actual bad guy hard enough— that’s the only way i can see Season 2 being worth making. It’s a show about people getting her back for her crimes and she just embraces the reality of her delusions.
horseren0ir t1_iyq3xo6 wrote
I’ve noticed a big drop off in quality of Apples new shows this year, Severance is a big exception to that, and the returning shows were good, but a lot of the new stuff was underwhelming this year.
lightsongtheold t1_iynb61l wrote
This show did not have a lot of fans here on Reddit but I was one of the few so I’m happy to see it getting renewed. Definitely not one of Apple’s top shows but I still found it watchable nonsense with that typical slick Apple production quality.
NothingsShocking t1_iynp10e wrote
So like a Jason Bourne without the super fighting skills.
austenjg t1_iynfyll wrote
I thought this was supposed to be a miniseries?
anitemegup t1_iystp2o wrote
This show was horrible and frankly doesn’t deserve a second season. Gugu is a great actress but this show did nothing for her. The plot, writing, and characters were horrible.
Calichi94102 t1_iynwmc9 wrote
This show was decent. Not really sure how they’re going to stretch out the story for another season though.
SQUID_FUCKER t1_iyraekx wrote
Did you see the end? There's like a huge part of the mystery they left unsolved.
Calichi94102 t1_iys3r59 wrote
Yeah, I saw it. I can’t really recall it right now though.
JohnnyAK907 t1_iyoch3l wrote
When shows I forgot were on, and appear nowhere in the stream rankings, get renewed: of course it's an AppleTV+ series.
Zarathustra30 t1_iyu418z wrote
I swear Apple's goal is not to make money directly from AppleTV+. I wish I could fathom what it actually is.
HairyNippleCrust t1_iypmajz wrote
Terrible to no payoff at the end of season 1. Surprised it got renewed
Kaiser_Allen t1_iypop03 wrote
The reason is Reese Witherspoon. Tim Cook loves her very much, so ALL of her shows on Apple TV+ are renewed non-stop. Even complete dogshits like Truth Be Told.
bongokhrusha t1_iynjpjl wrote
I am glad that apple gives shows a chance rather than simply cancelling unsuccessful ones right away like Netflix.
ScalpelBurn2 t1_iynkp7u wrote
Apple cancels shows that underperform (see: Mr. Corman).
Apple is also just getting started in the streaming game, so it's normal for shows that would normally get canned on another service to get renewed for another season because they lack a robust content library. Once Apple's content library is large enough, they'll be canceling shows just like every other service in the game.
Don't hate streaming services for canceling shows that people don't watch enough to justify the production costs. It's juvenile.
SQUID_FUCKER t1_iyraohk wrote
Exactly, that was the running joke with Netflix for a while at the beginning too, that everything was automatically getting three seasons. Obviously it's different now but Apple is following the same path somewhat. Not enough content to cancel everything, got to build up the stable a bit first.
pinksinthehouse t1_iyo9fki wrote
I do wish shows would not have cliffhangers since a cancellation is a strong possibility.
F00dbAby t1_iyoc5ik wrote
Still sad about mr corman
horseren0ir t1_iyq45uz wrote
It took some big swings that didn’t always land, but it was interesting and unique, I would’ve watched more
F00dbAby t1_iyq4bjo wrote
For sure at least another season. If it didn’t get the views I get it but I do feel at least on social media people don’t give shows enough time to find their footing
Some great shows only became great in a second or third season
horseren0ir t1_iyq4i70 wrote
Yeah, even Andor takes a few episodes to really get going and it’s one of the best shows of the year
Serenityprayer69 t1_iyx4s4d wrote
They've let a lot of sleepers have second seasons. Just because they cancel one doesn't mean they aren't giving a lot of them some room to breathe.
Apple is also a company that prides itself on quality. Why would you assume they will run their streaming service the same as the others that do quickly kill off potential big shows with only a small cult following after season 1.
A lot of great quality shows need time to breathe and I think apple understands that.
ScalpelBurn2 t1_iyx5mf8 wrote
You seem incredibly naive if you think the viewership < production costs ratio doesn't apply to Apple.
>A lot of great quality shows need time to breathe and I think apple understands that.
I think you are blissfully unaware how many "great quality shows" have low viewership numbers that actually grow in viewership over time. It's incredibly rare.
mountainhighgoat t1_iyobsra wrote
I remember Apple canceling a show while it was still airing lmao, so get your facts straight. I think it was the Mr. Corman show.
Kaiser_Allen t1_iypokbz wrote
One sign that Apple is canceling or not renewing a show is when they stop tweeting about it all of a sudden, even while it's airing. It happened to Little Voice, Home Before Dark, Suspicion, Mr. Corman and Central Park.
Weird-Lie-9037 t1_iynoe4y wrote
Apple is a waste of money. Watch a season, wait two years for follow up season and they are only 8 episodes anyway. Streaming services are shooting themselves in the foot with the lack of new content and the reliance on movies made 40 years ago to provide content
sgthombre t1_iyn5qeo wrote
Every time I see something about this show all my brain can think about is that NBC sci-fi show about underwater monsters that got cancelled.