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0liBear t1_isstakf wrote
This is a solution to that problem, with less cost to the people. If hospitals rivaled negative online information with their obviously more correct info, less people would end up without medical advice.
mamabear123456789 t1_isswdxc wrote
s/ This study has been brought to you by the Internet Advertising folks looking for a buck
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Redmarkred t1_issy4v0 wrote
People should do a lot of things
Prestigious-Pea7951 t1_issyt14 wrote
For-profit hospitals, drug companies, equipment makers, etc. want repeat customers. There is no money in a cure or prevention for them. It would be like Marlboro saying don’t smoke.
leithal70 t1_issz6n4 wrote
The thing is, that won’t happen. Social media is the new Tv or radio and that isn’t changing anytime soon. Rather than push back against getting info from these places, we have to find a way to legitimize information on these sites and find ways to run successful campaigns for healthy decisions.
yesiknowimsexy t1_ist239u wrote
Former social media manager…
That would imply someone with a doctorate degree would manage the day to day, whether they’re the ones actually posting or not. I just can’t imagine someone who went to school for that long to actually, physically help patients say “why yes I’d love to sit and write copy all day and never see a human”
Or I’m completely off base and in which case have a nice day
hornsounder9 t1_ist3hre wrote
Oh god no please. This is absolutely a terrible idea, from a security and privacy standpoint.
ipodplayer777 t1_ist3j9r wrote
This. Why would they want you to be healthy? They’d rather you go broke.
trymypi t1_ist50sl wrote
Yeah actually this is pretty popular in the public health, social marketing, and behavior change community. Research backed approaches to getting people to act in healthy ways. PSAs, major health campaigns, stuff like that. Everything from anti-tobacco to exercise to vaccines require SMEs to work with marketers.
yesiknowimsexy t1_ist5sbt wrote
Oh for sure.I don’t know an social media manager who doesn’t work outside the marketing department of a company.
With that said, most SMM are the ones who write the copy, design the layouts, initiate online campaigns but don’t have medical degrees (of course).
I should’ve been clearer, but because of this separation between a good SMM and a good medical doctor, I don’t see how to merge the two worlds successfully and uniquely without having an actual doctor at the helm. I’m just saying people with MD on the back of their name would probably be reluctant
trymypi t1_ist6459 wrote
So you don't need a doctor at the helm, you have a whole team of people that write copy, make sure it's accurate, do further research to make sure it's effective to audiences (like focus groups) then re-do it if anything needs changing, make sure it's still accurate, then run it. Typically for seasonal (or longer) campaigns, not one-off social posts.
BelCantoTenor t1_ist6715 wrote
Hospitals are mostly for profit corporations. Never trust corporations with your life. Trust the doctor or nurse at your bedside, but not their employer. Corporations only care about profits. Take what they say with a grain of salt.
yesiknowimsexy t1_ist6e37 wrote
I’d love to work for a place that had a whole team write the copy. Sure there’s multiple eyes on it, but creation (and least for most companies I worked for) had one person doing the job. Maybe another who was capable of being a backup.
SMMs are woefully overworked and undervalued for the amount of work they actually contribute
33Zalapski t1_ist6hml wrote
The publisher of this article, IGI Press, is widely known as a "vanity" academic press - not predatory, but not of a high quality. See: https://beallslist.net/vanity-press/
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YoureGrammarWronger t1_ist8t3w wrote
Ha. The cardiac hospital I trained at served fried chicken and soda.
ExploratoryCucumber t1_ist8vnb wrote
Easier said than done when engaging with US Healthcare bankrupts the vast majority of US citizens.
EVJoe t1_istaq56 wrote
For many, "Go see an actual doctor" is not something which can be done simply, quickly, or without expense. Millions of people in the US avoid seeing healthcare due to cost.
The use of the internet as a stand-in for healthcare isn't the fault of people who are dumb or gullible as you seem to imply -- it's a reflection of millions of people with health concerns who feel like they can't seek care.
user_dan t1_istav57 wrote
In America, even if you have health insurance, the cost of seeing a doctor can be prohibitive.
If you can stomach the cost, referrals, claim denials or spending hours on the phone with a service rep in India are a very stressful part of seeing an actual doctor. In some cases, the pain of dealing with the healthcare system may be worse than the disease.
I don't know what the numbers are of people choosing alternatives to the healthcare system, but I imagine the trend is upward.
EVJoe t1_istbecm wrote
Hospitals literally can't tell you how much your insurance company will charge you for a procedure. Only the insurance company can tell you, and often they won't tell you the real cost until you've already committed. This is the "middle man" people complain about.
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mr-photo t1_istfsf9 wrote
I feel sorry for you then, up here in Canada I just make an appointment and go see my doctor anytime. We're not without our issues too, many people don't have a family doctor because of shortages and wait times can be long, but there are many clinics or even the hospital that they can just walk into and don't have to pay anything.
Westfakia t1_isth52w wrote
Social Media telling people that they should use social media more. Yawn.
Hospitals are supposed to deliver healthcare. I don’t need to follow their FB page, twitter, instagram or whatever. They can do that on their website and not have to waste our money paying Zuckerberg to boost their posts so that the Social Media Directpr will look more effective.
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Riegel_Haribo t1_istlhzs wrote
Why not just upload medical records directly to Facebook?
There is nothing for you on Instragram except for having every interest of yours turned into a data product for sale.
Atlamillionaire t1_istuvcf wrote
I thought science was about falsifying theories through experimentation, not making value judgements and prescribing courses of action.
More and more I’m seeing words like “should” appear in the titles of posts in this place.
QuestionableAI t1_istuwxm wrote
Hospitals are giant CORPORATIONS, not little stand alones... they have investors, CEOs, boards of directors .... they are there for the $$$$$$ not the community and moreover, lots of them are Catholic hospitals who deny services to women.
PR that shite.
Elphya t1_isu1lba wrote
Or do they want slightly hypochondriac "patients"? Like people coming over for testing and insisting on more tests just to be sure.
jeffbezosbush t1_isu47tc wrote
They make money by people being sick in America
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Minastik98 t1_isuafeg wrote
101% that, I think it'd help me a lot when I was younger.
But also now dr. Mike is better than any and all of you could ever be.
Anastariana t1_isuajex wrote
Why would a hospital promote healthy lifestyles and good choices such that it reduces demand for it's services in the future?
At least, for-profit ones. In the sane part of the world with Universal Healthcare it wouldn't matter.
SuddenCompetition262 t1_isuchqo wrote
The other issue is that there’s nowhere near enough doctors where I live. Almost no one has a family doctor unless you’ve been grandfathered in from living here for decades, and even trying to talk to a doctor online often has a 1 month + wait time.
CertainKaleidoscope8 t1_isuefa8 wrote
I would love that cush job. The problem is they'll hire some idiot who thinks $25/hr is a good wage and keep those of us with education and experience working in the hellish nightmare that has become bedside.
The issue is they aren't going to pay $60/hr for a nurse or twice that for a midlevel or four times that for a physician. Most of us would be perfectly happy to not be working 12 hour shifts without breaks five days a week and instead get paid to play on the internet.
CertainKaleidoscope8 t1_isuew60 wrote
That costs money and there is no hospital admin willing to part with their multimillion dollar salaries
CertainKaleidoscope8 t1_isufo2g wrote
This isn't science. This is some hack advocating for more administrative bloat for an industry that is bankrupting everyone they don't kill.
CertainKaleidoscope8 t1_isufsld wrote
Very good points. I'm wondering if the author is from the Commonwealth. Edit, I was close, former colony.
"Anwar F. AlHussainan (Kuwait University, Kuwait), Zahraa A. Jasem (Kuwait University, Kuwait) and Dari Alhuwail (Kuwait University, Kuwait)"
They have no idea how healthcare works in the rest of the world.
QuestionableAI t1_isugozy wrote
I see. Thank you for that illumination ... I sure missed that.
Atlamillionaire t1_isujjky wrote
It’s the same thing with the universities and administrative bloat. We’re subsidizing this garbage as tuition skyrockets by putting entire generations of students into indentured servitude.
75% of studies in this field aren’t even cited once. It isn’t science, it’s Scientism, and look how much attention this is getting here right now.
OneHairyMidget t1_isujsqn wrote
Some of them do on LinkedIn. Check out the pages for Cleveland Clinic and Mayo Clinic.
CertainKaleidoscope8 t1_isukbw2 wrote
Yeah they have fully subsidized healthcare in Kuwait because it's a rich protectorate of the US. They also have obscene obesity rates so their health issues are not the same. It makes sense for State-run Kuwaiti hospitals to have a social media presence to tell people to try vegetables, excercise more, take their cholesterol medication, etc
QuestionableAI t1_isuknw5 wrote
Is their obesity historical or is it more recent and have anything to do with dietary changes since western intervention?
JoHaSa t1_isul5t0 wrote
Public health is only partly issue demanding medical doctors. A lot can be done by other, less expensive professionals. Medical doctors are not professionals in life style improvement. Psychologist, dietitians and even communication specialists may be very useful in making public health issues known to ordinary people.
CertainKaleidoscope8 t1_isula48 wrote
I believe Kuwait is one of the fattest countries on earth.
Ischemic heart disease, Low back pain, Diabetes, Depressive disorders, and Headache disorders are cited as the top causes of the most death and disability.
They are extremely wealthy.
Draw whatever conclusions you need.
mkottt t1_isunoes wrote
Why can't they do both again ?
CertainKaleidoscope8 t1_isuqri2 wrote
The worlds fattest countris are Polynesian: Nauru, Cook Islands, Palau, Marshall Islands, Tuvalu, Niue, Tonga, Samoa, Kiribati, and Micronesia. This is directly attributable to colonization, destruction of indigenous culture and foodways, and forced second-class citizenship.
The next fattest, in order, are Kuwait, United States, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, (all very rich countries), Lebanon, Libya, Turkey, Egypt, and UAE. Obviously some of the latter have had their wealth pilfered through various proxy wars but Lebanon and Libya are the only ones in real trouble. Most of these nations are doing ok considering. The UAE is obscenely wealthy.
These are followed by these fat cats:
Bahamas, New Zealand, Iraq, Fiji, Bahrain, Canada, Australia, Mexico, Malta, South Africa, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Dominica, United Kingdom, Syria, Dominican Republic, Algeria, Oman, Tunisia, Hungary, Suriname, Lithuania, Morocco, Israel, Czech Republic, Iran, Costa Rica, Venezuela, and Andorra.
So it does appear that obesity afflicts those who had everything stolen from them, as well as those who did the stealing.
It's like a beautiful Greek tragedy that only one of these countries has a for-profit medical system that bankrupts whatever citizens it doesn't kill and equally interesting that all of the economies mentioned were initially based on the capture and sale of human beings. Slavery appears to be the gift that keeps on giving.
It's almost like heart disease, diabetes and somatization disorders are the price the seventh generation pays for genocide. Epigenetics be crazy like that.
Regardless, hiring some tech bro to leverage the low hanging fruit and employ best practices to gain traction with social media consumers seems right on brand for these vultures. They'll keep moving the goalposts until we have more mass extinctions than the Permian-Triassic and make the PETM look like winter.
greatbigdogparty t1_isur20p wrote
And just stick with the BD?
popformulas t1_isuvgyc wrote
THANKYOUVERYMUCH.
f meta.
axegashington t1_isuxor5 wrote
Hospitals won't do this because they make more money if people are uninformed and unhealthy and everything is profit now. Source: Am nurse switching professions.
Wonderful-Cup-9556 t1_isv0yng wrote
And what’s in it for the hospital? Sounds like the people hired for that will be laid off!
Gayfunguy t1_isvaqaz wrote
Its people like dietitians that need to have more online presence but they dont want to give free info away. And they would have to be monitored that they arnt saying incorrect information or something else unprofessional omline. I mean its in the code of conduct but dietitians can be quite abusive to eachother online with very little repercussions. Hence most people dont want to be social media gurus even more.
retarded-advise t1_isvbx1i wrote
Why? We have internets!
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Quiet_Ear_3678 t1_isvfbmr wrote
Public health information is nowhere near accessible enough but the for-profit hospital system is never going to do anything about it. It’s a business model. If it won’t make the CEO money, hospitals won’t do it.
Beba2022 t1_isvjb5x wrote
You’re absolutely right!! The social media we have today did not exist like this in my days and I’m in my early 40s. How did everything happen back in those days??? Social media has made people lazy and anti social nowadays. Trying to make the world hooked and addicted making you feel as you can’t survive without it. Just like everything was done back then it surely can be done today and without social media!
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fitness_life_journey t1_isvl32v wrote
The school lunch programs around here actually have offered healthy meals for kids that qualify.
They have meals using whole grains (even a whole grains lunchables -like pack), carrots with ranch, a fruit, whole grain graham crackers.
Teaching it would be awesome though and Michelle Obama did try to campaign those ideals. Not sure if those programs stuck.
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bibbittybobbittyboop t1_isvrgld wrote
Is this a study that was done or just an opinion what is this post how did this not get removed.
YamaKazeRinZen t1_isvs4v5 wrote
Health information and awareness are public health issue, which is why it is delivered by department of health / public health instead of hospital. This BS is clearly written by someone who has no idea how a society works
burr_hole t1_isvwa7p wrote
Instagram is a visually driven platform. What content can a hospital consistently create that will actually have appeal on Instagram?
Nothing
houstonyoureaproblem t1_isw03br wrote
Not so sure about hospitals, but I do think we'd see some benefit if nutrition information was broadcast through social media. People need that information drilled into their brains for it to have any chance of changing behavior.
boxedcrackers t1_isw0693 wrote
Why is every Hospital designed like a maze?
ALLoftheFancyPants t1_isw091k wrote
If you want to improve health literacy, social media presence is not the way to go. Its a great way to just dump money, but it’s not going to have results like using that money to improve public education in health and science…
Doompatron3000 t1_isw2ub9 wrote
*so that the Social Media Director can feel like they aren’t a waste of money.
Fixed it for you.
Important_Ad_9809 t1_isx2fh5 wrote
The NHS in the UK wastes far too much money on advertising already thanks
Awellplanned t1_isx9mot wrote
Only if it will make them more money, human health is not a priority for profit medicine.
Trancetastic16 t1_isxxxzq wrote
You make some good points. Are there some recourses you’re able to share for further reading on the subjects? Thank you.
Trancetastic16 t1_isxys81 wrote
This is the standard of quality for r/science, this and Psypost - which is 99% small studies making large claims or actual pseudoscience.
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