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iv2892 t1_j9pci6u wrote

Reply to comment by cakeversuspie in FDNY wants to up the cost of ambulance rides by more than 50% by NYY657545

If it wasn’t for the corruption and our money going into Ukraine we would have more money for this

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LeicaM6guy t1_j9pdxpy wrote

You know we can drop dump-trucks full of money into Ukraine and have a decent health care system, right? We wouldn't even notice it, and it's not like they don't both deserve it.

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BigDaddyBimbus t1_j9pesmt wrote

Ukraine has nothing to do with corporations fucking everyone over.

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Neckwrecker t1_j9pjmh8 wrote

>Ukraine has nothing to do with corporations fucking everyone over.

It does have a little to do with it (defense contractors).

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-wnr- t1_j9pjdo6 wrote

We can very much afford what we're putting into Ukraine. Much of that value is the original sticker price of old or used equipment the US will replace anyway. The embarrassment of the Russian military is a huge windfall for the American defense industry. Poland alone tried to order 500 HIMARS which we can't even supply. All the weapons systems we sell will in turn generate billions in service contracts, eventual upgrades, and ammunition purchases that goes right back to the American economy.

Combine all that with neutering the Russian military and strengthening NATO unity; while putting zero American troops in harm's way. This has been the bargain of the century.

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TranquilSeaOtter t1_j9plr8h wrote

I bet you're the first person to screech about communism when people talk about universal healthcare.

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iv2892 t1_j9qw70p wrote

Not really , I think healthcare is one of those things we can do better .

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09-24-11 t1_j9pr6mb wrote

Hey guess what mr whatabout we STILL wouldn’t put money into social programs if we weren’t involved in Ukraine. That’s people our politicans value corporations over people. Wake up.

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iv2892 t1_j9qvnes wrote

Im not exclusively blaming it on the Ukraine situation, but we always seem to have money for wars and stuff we don’t really need . Yes , we need a strong military but is not fair when other countries don’t cheap in nearly as much per citizen

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09-24-11 t1_j9qwl0j wrote

Fair point and one you probably should have led with

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cakeversuspie t1_j9pebha wrote

>If it wasn’t for the corruption and our money going into Ukraine we would have more money for this

You're not totally wrong in that statement. Other countries rely on our firepower and with that comes most of our country's budget going to things like aid and weapons for other countries that are currently in war time, but Americans VOTED for this. Also I love how you're using Ukraine as an example but didn't bring up other countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, and Iran where we also spent tons of money. So let's not pretend that if we weren't sending money to Ukraine that ALL OF A SUDDEN we would have money for things like healthcare and infrastructure.

Just so we're clear, I agree that we spend too much on war mongering and not enough on things I mentioned above. But just remember which politicians were voted in and what their priorities are, and I'll tell you this, it wasn't the progressives who actually fought for things like healthcare reform. It's not progressives who want to abolish unions and keep slave wages in this country. It's not progressives that want to deregulate industries and it's not progressives that are trying to bring back child labor.

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