Submitted by Wumboalt1 t3_11obq96 in newhampshire

So I'm looking at different states and asking around, and the one constant with most of New England is: "nice nature, nice people, no crime, nice state, but no job opportunities"

Which sounds like west virginia, except all of New England is apparently expensive af with high property taxes. How does that work?

So its expensive to live there but there are no jobs? Is all of new england retirees with huge 401k packages and rich people? I dont get how the labor market is bad but everyone is wealthy.

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ericools t1_jbrvqlu wrote

I'm sure it depends a lot on what kind of a job you are looking for. If it's just any entry level job I wouldn't imagine you should have any issue finding one.

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Wumboalt1 OP t1_jbsalpx wrote

so is it just a meme? I always see "low employment opportunities". Is it just Maine or something? Cuz Im p sure I saw it for vermont as well

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snowman603 t1_jbslb43 wrote

Post COVID, the #1 challenge for the majority of companies here is trying to hire staff. Healthcare, hospitality, education, etc = lots of jobs.

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HelloDoYouHowDo t1_jbsyr4v wrote

NH has a low unemployment rate but I know a lot of young people who are underemployed which I think is what people are saying when they say no employment opportunities. A lot of southern NH is commuter towns for MA and that’s where the big money comes from. Living and working only in NH would severely limit your earning potential and ability to keep up with the cost of living. Someone in this thread said there’s great jobs paying over $20/hour but let’s be real $20/hour doesn’t get you far in NH. You can’t rent an apartment or save money on that wage. A lot of people like to equate help wanted signs with opportunity when most of the help wanted is for menial jobs that would leave you broke. There are jobs but not many that can pay you a livable wage and/or have growth opportunity.

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ericools t1_jbt8nvj wrote

True the housing market has gotten ridiculous due to people fleeing larger cities and moving into the state.

I imagine that will resolve itself at some point here. Especially with high interest rates and doesn't seem very sustainable.

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jondaley t1_jbrzq2g wrote

For the last couple of years, there have been jobs everywhere. I haven't seen the signing bonus signs in a while (they were offering multiple thousands of dollars a year ago for fast food and others).

Not very much engineering, other than far south or commuting to Mass. I don't like commuting and didn't want to live in the expensive suburban south, so waited until I was self-employed before I moved back home (rural south) ten years ago.

But now there are so many remote jobs for engineering, that doesn't even matter any more.

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dominicaldaze t1_jbsvkhb wrote

Your experience kind of surprises me because NH likes to view its manufacturing industry as quite robust. There are a lot of factories and machine shops in the state compared to its population.

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djdirectdrive t1_jbsyf97 wrote

I know of some machine shops in the lakes region that are at half staff... Turning down work because they can't find enough people.

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dominicaldaze t1_jbszwck wrote

Yep I'm a machinist and shops are dying for help right now. Really hard to fill off shift staff at the moment

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jondaley t1_jbsxl78 wrote

There is a factory in my town that does have a job posted every once in a while. But it is small. There are more factories in more urban areas that I personally would rather not be in (or commute to); so I never really considered it for myself.

My guess is that it is "robust" per capita, but not compared to a real city since the whole state has the population of a city... :)

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dominicaldaze t1_jbsxx8q wrote

I think you're describing the general problem with population in New Hampshire as a whole, the north is very sparsely populated and consequently has much fewer jobs in industry. But there's plenty of jobs down south closer to the sea coast where there's more people. Not really fair to ding the state as a whole for what is a regional problem.

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jondaley t1_jbte4bc wrote

I guess I'm confused as to what you thought I said wrong or "dinging" the state... I think NH is a great place to live.

I said "not much engineering except for down south or in Mass".

How many total engineering jobs do you think are in the state?

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firewolf8385 t1_jbw8t3z wrote

Can confirm that, as a mechanical engineering student currently in the process of finding a summer internship, there’s not many engineering jobs in the state. Even less with internship spots. Best luck I’ve had so far is places an hour or more away.

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coastkid2 t1_jc8y9qb wrote

Yes, you’re right, the great engineering jobs are around Boston for this area. My son’s best friend graduated UMass in computer engineering & started a hybrid job as an engineer when he graduated . He lives in Quincey, MA & 2 years later makes 6 figures and employer pays half his rent plus has great perks. NH has more limited opportunities for professional work overall at competitive salaries. I grew up in southern NH & even my dad commuted to CT for his job (landscape architect).

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cafeRacr t1_jbspodc wrote

Plenty of jobs. What's your background and experience?

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Wumboalt1 OP t1_jbuoqba wrote

Oh, thays irrelevant Im already employed and remote making well into the six figures. I was just wondering about the discrepancy I was seeing. Guess I was wrong

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Jean-Paul_Sartre t1_jbsm3ct wrote

No job opportunities?

Look at all the hiring signs out now. We literally don't have enough people to fill jobs.

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Double_Royal6865 t1_jbucibh wrote

One way is to work in Massachusetts and commute. Working in the construction industry for 40 plus years and if you want to make money, work in Massachusetts.

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movdqa t1_jbsotn6 wrote

Go to the Indeed site and subscribe to your area of interest for job postings. I do this and I get a long list of postings every day.

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katspresso t1_jbss6iw wrote

NH is one of the lowest states in terms of overall tax burden, but it also is one of the highest for cost of living. I’m surprised at the claim that there are no jobs-NH has reported a labor shortage like many other states. Like other posters have said-your job prospects are probably determined by your field. Based on my own experience, I can report that, holy crap this state needs tradespeople!

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Methos1979 t1_jbsxd04 wrote

Tons of jobs right now, and good paying ones too. The company I tried from has around 100 open positions they can't fill. Most starting well over $20/hr.

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ILikeCrabbyRobots t1_jbxdbej wrote

"She said he's holding out for a management role."

There's work everywhere, if you're good at what you do.

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VinsonChe90 t1_jbsswzz wrote

Depending on your background, find a remote job. I used to drive two hours to Boston for work and two hours back every day for an office job. I got tired of it and said peace. Got a remote job and it’s been so much easier.

NH can be an expensive place to live for some, but compared to everywhere else I lived previously (and I’ve lived in 7 other states around the country), NH is very affordable for my husband and I. If you’re single, it might be difficult unless you’re bringing in decent income.

If you have a CDL, you can make some great money. Look into a trade if you have a background in one. Because this state is mostly rural, trade jobs are big, at least where I’m living in the Monadnock Valley region. Everyone I know is either a trucker, electrician, plumber, NHDOT, contractor, etc.

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reficius1 t1_jbummw7 wrote

?

You can't drive past industrial areas here without being bombarded with "We're hiring!!" signs. If you want a job, you can get one.

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New_Project1793 t1_jbry1sa wrote

Haha when I was at school one of my Marketing projects actually compared NH and West Virginia as the most comparable for our market research and I never forgot that. Check out our literacy, average income, and unemployment- they were identical when I was at school.

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SceneFromMobyDick t1_jbsay2s wrote

In regards to unemployment, according to labor stats as of DEC22, NH ranks at 2.9 (tied for 11th) compared to WV at 4.1…putting them tied for 40th.

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SceneFromMobyDick t1_jbsb5kp wrote

NH also has the highest literacy rate in the United States…WV is in the bottom 16.

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