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happyexit7 t1_iw5rbtd wrote

If only democrats came out to vote like this in every election.

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Mlitz t1_iw668o8 wrote

Democrats were not the ones that got MGP elected. It was the moderate Republicans that turned the tables. As a very middle ground, Millennial, independent, I have a lot of "Republican" friends that I know voted for Turmp actually voted for her.

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Striper_Cape t1_iw6nit2 wrote

Can't trust Joe Kent. Also shows how fuckin brainwashed my dad is, that he still fucking voted for Joe Kent because somehow, MGP is socialist.

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MandatoryFunEscapee t1_iw78q8k wrote

We all need to start asking people who accuse anyone of being a socialist to define socialism.

And when they can't, tell them the definition.

Worker-owned means of production

Democracy in the workplace

Decommodification (and/or nationalization) of living expenses (food, water and electric production and distribution, data distribution, housing)

I've had conservatives say "that isn't socialism, that sounds good." Paraphrasing.

But then they look it up. Most cope and seethe at having lost a point in an argument. But some sit and think quietly. I've had 2 conservatives (moderates) change their tune. The last one went from echoing Fox talking points in every convo, to "I misunderstood Bernie before, and AOC is a little green on the political side but she has great ideas."

Two out of dozens I've debated isn't a good ratio, but putting Leftist values in perspective is literally the only thing that has had any success so far.

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bwc_28 t1_iw7y5qh wrote

These are the same sorts of idiots who rant about how "communist" Obamacare is while saying they love the Affordable Care Act because it helps them, completely unaware it's the same damn thing. Fox and other right wing outlets have flat out brain washed people.

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