I think she also started liking him after her misconceptions about wikhams narrative had been cleared and she was surprised at how well he treated her when she showed up at pemberly (she didn’t think she deserved his kindness and found it admirable that he would still be so friendly after she’d clearly been wrong)

I’m not mad about it, I just want to understand it better.

Go ahead! I’d love seeing different tales come in from there :)

That’s slightly unfair to lizzie cause although she undergoes a material change after she sees pemberly, it’s also after she read his letter and realised she’d misread the situation. I think her feelings change because she can see his efforts to engage with her when she meets him again and she’s touched that he would be so kind after she was so critical of him for a situation she knew nothing about.

Elizabeth really give us one of the best heroines in literature! I don’t think I’ve liked one better, so maybe she actually is not like other girls 😳🤌🏼✨

I liked @mikarala’s take on it. It gives some perspective.

I don’t think it would fly in today’s culture. Though, I just realised that Lizzie also had relationships with Jane and Charlotte which were founded on mutual respect, so it’s probably more complicated than that.

I’m not like other girls behaviour is something that we grow out of at some point :) she would have been slightly boring if we were all praise for Lizzie all the time.

> Truthfully I think most women have some "not like other girls" thoughts sometimes, although I think it's more common when we're younger. But yeah, even though Lizzie is "prejudice" and Darcy is "pride", I think they both display a good amount of the other's main character flaw. Lizzie is quite proud of her intellectual superiority, and that comes out quite a few times in the novel.

Yes, I think with Lizzie I mostly read it as this. I think Austen also amuses herself (and us) with really silly characters like Mr. Collins and Mrs. Bennet, so it doesn’t seem out of place to feel superior to them. But in this passage, it came off as weird.

>As for craftiness being portrayed negatively, that's just a product of the time, I think. I think when reading Austen, people need to keep in mind that she wasn't some kind of revolutionary seeking to change the status quo. The reason for her longevity in pop culture is based more on her brilliant and timeless satirization of human nature and hypocrisy. As a result, even though I love her work and still think it's relevant, I do think some of the morals, attitudes, and customs in her novels will be a bit jarring to modern readers.

Ahh, I like this take on it. I think I got swept away and forgot that Austen wasn’t trying to instigate a revolution.

Do you think he did like her cause she was impertinent?

Yeah, I guess. It’s just interesting to me how I saw this now but as a 16 year old I probably didn’t notice it. As a character, it probably would have been boring if Lizzie didn’t have a single flaw.