kepler456

kepler456 t1_j5e8gvp wrote

Yes, you are not wrong at all. But in a democracy the members of state are the ones elected. A good and functioning democracy has all the features you speak of. India is not a good democracy, but for now it still is a democracy since the members representing the population on the governmental front are elected by the people.

The judiciary was never elected by the people nor is the media. Them being elected is what you would expect in a functioning democracy, but unfortunately that is not what defines the word.

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kepler456 t1_j56gas4 wrote

OP asked: why is he getting elected, either ... or he is a good politician. You then go on to say: Modi has tried to maintain India’s diplomatic relations with other countries. You mention nothing else at all. You therefore use foreign policy as one of the biggest if not only reason he gets elected again. I go on to inform you that the electorate does not care about foreign policy in India.

As I said earlier, you are not wrong, but that is not the reason he is elected. I do not want to have a discussion or argument about it, I was just informing you in case you were not an Indian.

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kepler456 t1_j56fq3q wrote

>This is straight up just a lie. Especially because every party has an IT cell

You are just playing semantics at this point. You very well know that this person meant CBI raids and not IT cells. Don't worry though, I have listed it out in my reply so that others who do not know about it can educate themselves. 95% of the CBI (central bureau of investigation) has been on the minority opposition during the last years a huge jump from a new even 60% during the previous Congress government time when there was a larger opposition than today.

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kepler456 t1_j56e5sj wrote

Yes, but you are moving away from the topic at hand. The question was: Why is he voted for again and again and you said foreign policy.

Here is someone elses write up on the same topic: https://www.boell.de/en/2014/04/12/does-foreign-policy-matter-elections

It definitely matters, but only the elite think or discuss it. The majority are worried about putting food on the table and do not think critically. If we talk about what is important and what people should be thinking about we are in total agreement, but your response to the question asked is totally wrong in that aspect.

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kepler456 t1_j56d60r wrote

What makes you think I do not know this, but the average Indian voter does not care about this. If you do not know this, you do not know the major electorate of India.

EDIT: If people had common sense and the wisdom to think they would also know that the religion someone follows is irrelevant if you want to see progress in your locality and nation.

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kepler456 t1_j56cjf7 wrote

International relations have nothing to do with local elections though. Most Indians are oblivious to what is happening outside their town and when they do they do not care because they have their own issues to deal with.

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kepler456 t1_j56c5a4 wrote

Sad to say but it is still a democracy, the majority continue to vote for this. This is the bigger shame isn't it. If it was an autocracy you could at least say there are a few evil people ruling the country, but what can you say now?

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kepler456 t1_j56bvfw wrote

As another Indian I will say this to all the readers who are not Indian or not too familiar with this:

There is a strong opposition in India and the BJP has bribed most ministers in many states to switch parties AFTER elections. The opposition leader even went on a walk from the south to the north of the country and many prominent personalities joined at different stages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Jodo_Yatra but this does not really get a lot of media attention because most of the news channels are bought by the ruling party, Modis BJP.

Then there is the opposition winning many state elections, but there is a long list of states where the BJP bought over ministers and thus switched the government to their party since they now have the majority. For those ministers that cannot be bribed, Modis BJP threatens them like this: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/join-bjp-or-else-cms-bulldozer-is-ready-mp-minister-warns-congress-members/article66412235.ece These threats are mainly to those who did not already buckle from the pressure of investigations into them. The central bureau of investigations (CBI) that is now controlled by the ruling party even though it is meant to be independent (well known fact) targets the opposition. This is very obvious because 95% of the investigations being conducted are on the opposition: https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/ed-cbi-working-behalf-of-bjp-alleges-congress-leader-chidambaram-2294685-2022-11-08 (for a small opposition to have 95% of the cases it is once again quite obvious that the CBI is in the hands of the ruling party when around 50% of the sitting MLAs in the BJP government have at some point in their lives had criminal charges against them, but this is a feature in India at the moment and is a thing across party lines)

While investigations into the opposition take place people like who are a perfect representation of Modis India publicly ask Hindus to keep their knives sharp to go against the muslims and have no investigations or cases lodged and walk free on the streets of India https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/bjp-mp-pragya-thakur-calls-hindus-keep-knives-sharp-counter-love-jihad-171321

And you have people like this who want to make India like Iran with a religious board keeping check on the population: https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/dharma-censor-board-introduced-to-check-on-anti-religious-content-8393616/

Fun fact:

They (BJP, Modis party) continue to do well in elections in many states not because they think Modi was innocent in 2002 but on the contrary because they know he is not and want the same to happen across the country. There is a strong anti Muslim or antiminority vibe in India. Whatsapp groups of many families of friends, work whatsapp groups (which includes people of all religions) and more are filled with fake anti-muslim anti-minority news. It does not happen in every city, but it happens a lot. If there is a crime commited in India if it is a muslim that did it they make sure it is known that it was a muslim otherwise a man or a women did xxx instead of saying a Hindu man or Hindu woman.

This documentary is about the UKs investigations, but there was the same done in India that came to the same conclusion you can take a look at a summary here: https://sabrangindia.in/article/what-concerned-citizens-tribunal-said-about-role-nda-i-government-godhra or the full report here: http://www.unipune.ac.in/snc/cssh/humanrights/04%20COMMUNAL%20RIOTS/A%20-%20%20ANTI-MUSLIM%20RIOTS/04%20-GUJARAT/f.pdf

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