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h3mip3nultim4te t1_iyvltef wrote

There’s nothing in the statute that doesn’t apply to funereal requests, and there’s nothing in the statute that says if the (or some members of the) family request something, it’s not still a basis for liability.

Contrariwise, there is language in the comment to the statute that indicates that it’s reference to authorization by other law means to exempt those engaged in academic settings.

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h3mip3nultim4te t1_iyvlh7y wrote

I mean, I’d prefer a disposition that’s has a little more learning. Impose some ARD that has x-100 hours of community service in connection with funereal directors or palliative care for the elderly or something. Use the opportunity to rehabilitate. These aren’t hardened criminals who are dangerous to the community. They’re kids who need to be taught a lesson.

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h3mip3nultim4te t1_iyu3sl4 wrote

I don’t think we have any facts on whether or to what degree the deceased would have cared, but I agree with your points otherwise.

I just think this transgression is one that should be dealt with via learning the points you’ve raised, or via personal and university sanctions, not criminal ones. Maybe the criminal process will be the cudgel to make that learning happen. But if these folks do 2 years at the ACJ, that’s a gross overreaction.

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h3mip3nultim4te t1_iytr0yo wrote

Of course it blurs the line. The families here gave license for the use of these bodies that literally includes the actual acts here. That fact is not different because the acts were accompanied by lewd comments. Maybe that’s legally significant or maybe it’s not, but it’s a hell of a thing to take 2 years of someone’s life for.
Maybe I just care less about what happens to my body when I die, but this just seems like grossly disproportionate.

And again, imagine a law that says it’s an M2 to “treat people in a way that would offend ordinary sensibilities.” That kind of vagueness is just an open door for arbitrary and discriminatory law enforcement. “Don’t be awful” is a good enough personal code I guess, but it’s hardly a legal one built for our already trash legal system.

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h3mip3nultim4te t1_iytpun8 wrote

And perhaps more importantly how broad is “treats a corpse in a way that would offend ordinary family sensibilities”?

Imagine yourself in say, Greene County, and imagine all the things that, say, a funeral director does and how they could offend “ordinary family sensibilities” of people there. Embalming offends some “ordinary” families. Putting makeup or other appearance enhancements could offend others. Acknowledging that the person was divorced, or gay, or atheist, or in drug recovery, or so on, could come under the sweep of this statute, and the punishment is up to 2 years in jail.

For my part, I would think that these students are immature as fuck, and they need to learn, not be put into the carceral system. If prosecution leads to that, great. But our jail is full of actual dangerous people, and it shouldn’t be full of stupid ass kids.

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h3mip3nultim4te t1_iytoqcx wrote

That’s all fine and well, but it blurs the line a bit when you’ve given them the right to literally dissect your loved one’s vagina.

Again, not defending this conduct morally, but I’m not sure what ordinary sensibilities are when you’ve given grandpa to the university for experiments and study.

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h3mip3nultim4te t1_iytmg3q wrote

I understand this is gross and wrong, but it strikes me that it’s better suited to opprobrium from peers or professors or expulsion from university or whatever than up to two years in the ACJ. Grabbing a cadaver’s dick for a laugh shouldn’t mean a year on bail and two years in reds.

Also the statute is vague as hell. What the hell are “ordinary family sensibilities” and how is a person supposed to conform his conduct to such a vague term?

And for what it’s worth, when I die, I literally do not give two shits what you do with my body.

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