TheBusStop12
TheBusStop12 t1_j9jjhxy wrote
Reply to comment by Scouse420 in Dutch intelligence services have warned that Russia is "covertly mapping" key energy infrastructure in the North Sea, in preparation for possible sabotage attacks. by green_flash
No it hasn't, just a single report of a once celebrated journalist who has gone of the deep end making up conspiracy theories to stay relevant. Literally no reputable media wanted to publish his "report"
He tried the same bullshit with Syria and was rightfully called out
No one else has been able to verify his claims
TheBusStop12 t1_j9jituz wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Dutch intelligence services have warned that Russia is "covertly mapping" key energy infrastructure in the North Sea, in preparation for possible sabotage attacks. by green_flash
As stated numerous times in recent years Seymour Hersh has fallen into the deep end of conspiracy theories and making up pure bullshit. As proven already by Bellingcat in 2017 when he was making up pro Russian bullshit in Syria
There's a reason the media ignores it. Show me another source that isn't based on the ranting of a single lunatic trying to stay relevant. No one, and I mean absolutely no one has been able to verify his claims
The pipeline was useless to Russia as it was never going to open again. It was just costing Gazprom tons of money. At least this way they could gage the Wests reaction to sabotage and see what they could get away with. Europe doesn't need Russian gas anymore, it has no purpose as leverage
TheBusStop12 t1_j9j3ih7 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Dutch intelligence services have warned that Russia is "covertly mapping" key energy infrastructure in the North Sea, in preparation for possible sabotage attacks. by green_flash
No it wasn't. Maybe stop reading Russian state propaganda.
I challenge you to post some sources that support your claims, and then look for sources that dispute your claims, and then compare which sources are more reputable. This is basic education stuff, we learn this in school
TheBusStop12 t1_j9is1xf wrote
Reply to comment by msemen_DZ in Dutch intelligence services have warned that Russia is "covertly mapping" key energy infrastructure in the North Sea, in preparation for possible sabotage attacks. by green_flash
>Try calling Article 5 on something with no proof, you gonna get shut down by other NATO members.
All of NATO came along when the US triggered article 5 after 9/11 to invade Afghanistan without proper proof (everyone nowadays knows it was mostly Saudi Arabian people behind the attack)
If Article 5 is triggered then that's it, members will have to respond in some form. Lest you risk the alliance falling apart. It's built on trust after all.
Luckily members do not throw this around willy nilly, especially where Russia is concerned, and will likely only trigger it if there's substantial proof that Russia crippled critical infrastructure
TheBusStop12 t1_j9ink1t wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Dutch intelligence services have warned that Russia is "covertly mapping" key energy infrastructure in the North Sea, in preparation for possible sabotage attacks. by green_flash
Denmark and Germany decided against triggering Article 5 after Russia blew up the Nord Stream pipelines.
It all depends on just how critical the infrastructure is to whether you want to risk all out war. It's a balance the attacked country must decide themselves. Same goes for Russia, they know that if they go too far they'll risk too much, so I'm very doubtful they'll damage anything critical
TheBusStop12 t1_j6ly4dp wrote
Reply to comment by Stoly23 in Haavisto: Finland has patience to wait for Nato membership — with Sweden. by parandroidfinn
It would be an even bigger blow to all the values Finland holds dear if they bended to Turkey now and abandoned Sweden. That will only happen if they are 100% certain Turkey will never let Sweden in. It's still election season in Turkey, I can almost guarantee that Erdogan would milk that situation for all it's worth and would make impossible demands from Finland as well. The fact that Erdo said that he wouldn't means less than nothing. It's just not worth it. Both Finland and Sweden can afford to wait until July and let cooler heads prevail
TheBusStop12 t1_j6lxul8 wrote
Reply to comment by REOreddit in Haavisto: Finland has patience to wait for Nato membership — with Sweden. by parandroidfinn
War is not going to break out between now and July. We can wait
TheBusStop12 t1_j6lxbvt wrote
Reply to comment by webs2slow4me in Haavisto: Finland has patience to wait for Nato membership — with Sweden. by parandroidfinn
There's no guarantee that Erdogan won't just make up a new obstacle Finland has to overcome if they tried that. Finland as a nation would rather not be swept up in the political election games for some wannabe dictator and be forced to make unnecessary sacrifices. Best to cut the political bullcrap and just wait until after Turkey has had their elections
TheBusStop12 t1_j2cz0ox wrote
Reply to comment by CowardNomad in Iranian author said sentenced to death for giving interview to Israeli TV channel by essential_projection
>They’re literally killing the intellectuals, the creativity, the cream of the crop of a people.
They should ask Pol Pot how that's gonna turn out for them
TheBusStop12 t1_jdrw70e wrote
Reply to comment by gzrh1971 in U.S. surveillance jet makes first mission up to northern Finland by qainin
Don't you think Cuba would get a say in that? AFAIK their current stance is "nope, keep us out please"
Finland on the other hand requested this, and joining NATO was supported by the majority of the population and the vast majority of Parliament