SanSeb
SanSeb t1_j1vu6j3 wrote
Reply to comment by HardDriveAndWingMan in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
Listen "idiot", the decision to cast them as black, is still woke. But they at least tried to make it fit with there being a whole family. Also, all the characters where well written, so this issue does not have a major impact on the show itself.
Meanwhile the lotr universe having only white male dwarves and one random black female one, is weird without explanation. The actress did a good job though I have to say.
SanSeb t1_j1vtt2z wrote
Reply to comment by Raincat21 in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
Insults are no criticism. As said before, all you guys are obviously from the US, have no discussion culture and don't know anything else then being black or white and insulting people. That's why you stick to two political parties and support them like a boyband instead of caring for actual topics that would bring you forward.
SanSeb t1_j1vtf3y wrote
Reply to comment by HardDriveAndWingMan in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
HotD has great characters. Female and Male. Therefore the issue with the race of the Valaryans can be overlooked. The lead protagonists Rhaenyra and Alicent show feminine attributes that make them believable, foremost the well-being of their kids. They are not jumping around and single handedly killing monsters and physically strong knights. Because no sense in a world that is not "woke".
SanSeb t1_j1vsyw7 wrote
Reply to comment by SerScronzarelli in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
There is no single mention of the word "alpha" by me in this thread.
Again, how can you claim to be Breaking Bad fan and then go crazy because of horribly written characters?
SanSeb t1_j1vsstl wrote
Reply to comment by sweetpeapickle in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
Because a medieval village does not have random characters from different races that never showed up in that series before. Are you guys dumb or simply results of the US education system? WTF?
SanSeb t1_j1vsihp wrote
Reply to comment by twodickhenry in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
She shows no compassion, leaves behind her crew, ignores their interests, watches as they get slaughtered by the troll,..
SanSeb t1_j1vs31n wrote
Reply to comment by SerScronzarelli in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
Has a breaking bad flair and honestly thinks Galadriel or Rey are good written characters.
Skyler White would vomit.
SanSeb t1_j1vrhvy wrote
Reply to comment by hubbabubbahoe in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
That's my type, yeah.
SanSeb t1_j1vr7sh wrote
Reply to comment by night117hawk in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
Wow, what a roast. A bunch of US citizens with blue and purple haired avatars insulting me. How can I cope?
SanSeb t1_j1vqtca wrote
Reply to comment by Raincat21 in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
Grown people insulting me over a post = triggered and embarrassing.
SanSeb t1_j1vqlb7 wrote
Reply to comment by twodickhenry in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
Just have another look at the scene where Galadriel and her crew search for Sauron in the snowy mountains. Horrible traits and character.
Also, it seems like you guys have very extreme views, so if I would tell you now that certain attributes and traits are more natural with males and others more with females you probably would insult me again like others here, so what's the point to further elaborate.
SanSeb t1_j1vq98e wrote
Reply to comment by HardDriveAndWingMan in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
Great contribution insulting me instead of bringing one argument that relates to my post. Let me guess, you are from the US?
No clue, but strong opinions and only knowing extremes.
SanSeb t1_j1vq02p wrote
Reply to comment by JWells16 in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
Well, yeah that was probably expressed in a wrong manner. They were making money that's true, but let's say the expectation of the success was probably a bit higher. Just look at the new trilogy which is mostly regarded as bad now, doesn't have the merchandise sales as expected, etc. So the hype basically died down, besides some "classic" series like Mandalorian bringing back a bit of the former feeling.
RoP was hoping to get the old lotr crowd on board but also being criticized a lot and could have been much better based on the expectations.
So in that sense they maybe didn't flop, but weren't successful because the focus was on shoehorning in some characters instead writing good stories.
HotD at least tried to make a bit of sense with the recasting, while RoP as mentioned just placed tokens in every culture without explaining any further. I would have wanted for them to introduce these new people and races properly into the world. Maybe take the Haradrim who are a arabic-esque group but that obviously wouldn't be relevant for the American market. Here is has to be a black person to check that diversity box. But here we in the rest of the world don't really care. Do it right or not at all. And just placing a random black person into a medieval setting is just weird. Especially when these characters get no proper backstory. I think that's no real inclusion and I don't understand how people here see this criticism as racism instead of being vocal for these minorities to being protrayed with a little bit more respect.
But as said somewhere else in this thread, people don't even care and just want to insult.
SanSeb t1_j1vog0n wrote
Reply to comment by okcrumpet in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
Thanks bud, but this battle here is lost.
Just triggered people all around not understanding my issue with these movies and shows being made. Even wishing for black or asian people getting real stories and backstories is now racist. Completely weird.
The mentioned characters of stuckshift guy are what are well written female characters, caring for their kid/crew/people instead of being a ultra talented ninja with no flaws.
But whatever. Being called an incel that only speaks to his Grandma again in 3, 2, 1,..
Kappa
SanSeb t1_j1vm3gz wrote
Reply to comment by Bunnywith_Wings in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
Compassion, supportiveness, gentleness, warmth and many more.
SanSeb t1_j1vlz45 wrote
Reply to comment by JWells16 in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
The Star Wars franchise did a big nose dive, RoP is being floored by HotD. Surely not a success.
Also not even mentioning the all female ghost busters or Oceans movies.
SanSeb t1_j1vlrqw wrote
Reply to comment by supmandude in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
What weird take is that? Did you even read my post or are you just enraged that I am not a fan of placing token people and then checking the #inclusion box?
SanSeb t1_j1vlhnh wrote
Reply to comment by WordsAreSomething in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
If you would have read my post correctly, you would have seen that I mentioned, that different races should be included in a way that it makes sense and that women should be portrayed as women with great traits and not as men that behave like arrogant antagonists.
And I believe if that would be the case, the quality of the shows would rise and therefore the success would be bigger, yes.
SanSeb t1_j1vkhx3 wrote
Reply to comment by WordsAreSomething in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
I don't understand what you mean with that comment.RoP and the new Star Wars trilogy surely did not have the expected success.
Edit: Downvotes instead of answers. Awesome.
SanSeb t1_j1w3p17 wrote
Reply to comment by HardDriveAndWingMan in Why still the push for "woke" tv-shows and movies, when almost all of them result in a flop? by [deleted]
You’re not even reading your own articles. Surely there were in trading ports and big cities and castles. Surely not regularly in village towns with a handful of houses.