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putin_my_ass t1_j5v8aaa wrote

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> Canada, don't be like us. We are doomed. Save yourselves.

Canada is more like the US than not. We have our differences, and many Canadians like to act smugly superiour to our friends to the South but we're very similar.

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Ray_Pingeau t1_j5vbi43 wrote

If health care goes private, I’m gonna pull the bandaid off and move to the states because healthcare is the only real difference I see between our countries anymore. If I have to live in America, I’m gonna live in a warmer part of America.

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Patchy248 t1_j5vfd51 wrote

The frequency of gun violence is enough to keep me up North

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SentientHotdogWater t1_j5vii02 wrote

No public healthcare means a lack of treatment for mentally ill people. It's one of, but not the only, contributors to the mass shooting crisis in the US.

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Patchy248 t1_j5viyvh wrote

As someone who lives with mental illness, our care is generally dogshit, but at least it won't make me go bankrupt

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SentientHotdogWater t1_j5vjlgm wrote

As someone who also lives with mental illness, care in the US is also dogshit but it will make you go bankrupt.

Don't believe anyone who tells you privatization will improve quality. It won't.

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[deleted] t1_j5wguev wrote

It does in Canada too if you want more in depth care than a doctor throwing pills at you.

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SentientHotdogWater t1_j5wlmr1 wrote

A doctor throwing pills at you is a hell of a lot better than nothing, which is what we get without paying.

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hummingbird_mywill t1_j5wzlhz wrote

Mental health care is essentially privatized in Canada. It’s terrible. You can’t really get care here unless you have someone actively advocating for you, sometimes not even then. Most of the mentally ill are in jail or on the streets, just like in the US. Only difference is that the jail sentences are shorter in Canada.

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Ray_Pingeau t1_j5vfspv wrote

Wait for crime to go through for the roof when millions of Canadians can’t afford health care

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TROPtastic t1_j5xlnpp wrote

But the Ontario Conservatives told me that privatization is the only way to save our healthcare system! They wouldn't lie to benefit their corporate donors, would they?

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1dererLives t1_j5vjan9 wrote

> healthcare is the only real difference I see between our countries anymore.

That speaks more to your own ignorance than anything else. A basic review of social statistics, public infrastructure, legal systems, etc, would demonstrate a myriad of differences.

And that doesn't even get into the fact that both countries have significant internal regional social differences.

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SentientHotdogWater t1_j5vm51f wrote

>And that doesn't even get into the fact that both countries have significant internal regional social differences.

People from other countries literally cannot tell us apart.

The regional differences between Americans and Canadians aren't any greater than that between Americans from different states. In fact someone from Minnesota or Wisconsin is probably way closer culturally to someone from Ontario than they are to someone from Texas.

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AftyOfTheUK t1_j5w03xg wrote

>People from other countries literally cannot tell us apart.

What does the media-warped opinion of people who have never lived in either country got to do with reality?

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SentientHotdogWater t1_j5wmw9e wrote

It's not just people who live in other countries. FFS we can't tell each other apart a lot of the time.

Be honest. If someone who grew up in Seattle moved to Vancouver and didn't tell people they were American how long do you think it would take for people to figure it out?

If it weren't for Google I'd have no idea Keanu Reeves or Ryan Reynolds were Canadian.

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Ok_Cranberry_1936 t1_j5xr3u3 wrote

Its clear you haven't spent much time in WA or BC then. We have vastly different cultures. And yes, we can spot Americans with ease.

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SentientHotdogWater t1_j5yawaq wrote

Americans with a strong southern accents or people who like to walk around in cowboy hats? Sure.

But an American who grew up in a city, and doesn't have a strong regional accent in a city 2.5 hours away where the people also don't have a strong regional accent? Fuck no.

I know you can't because I've seen you not do it over and over.

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Ok_Cranberry_1936 t1_j5z3wsz wrote

I'm born and raised in Vancouver. Been to Seattle hundreds of times. Family has a cabin in Birch Bay. Worked over 15 years in restaurants and hotels. I guarantee myself, and 90% of every coworker I've had in my career could pick Americans out of a line up, without fail, without them saying a word.

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Ray_Pingeau t1_j5vmnp2 wrote

Sorry, but I’m looking at the immediate world around me. The rising gun violence, the incoming private health care. The rage farming politics. The fact that I can’t go a week supporting Canadian only businesses. Seeing confederate flags flying. Conservative MPs supporting the overturn of Roe v Wade. Consolidation of media. Then there is America owning more and more of Canada every year.

Obviously it’s not a spitting image of America but we are more American every year. You and I will view the world different ways. If you think Canada still has its own identity, that’s cool but i see something different and there’s no way you can change my mind on this when we are on our way to privatized healthcare on the backs of politicians that wish they were republicans.

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hummingbird_mywill t1_j5wzb9z wrote

There are other differences too, as a Canadian now living in the US. The discussions around school districts here is out of control. The budgets for schools is tied to the average taxpayer, so the poor get worse education and the rich get better education, and the disparities grow. There is no maternity leave here. And the guns, like was mentioned. There remain many benefits to Canada.

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politicalnonsens3 t1_j5w0poz wrote

I won't move yet but you can bet your ass I ain't sticking around for my retirement. Costa Rica has good health care.

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TROPtastic t1_j5xlsgf wrote

How long until nations like Costa Rica shut their borders to retirees who didn't pay into their healthcare system? Or is private healthcare also affordable there?

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shade990 t1_j5xxpw1 wrote

lmao right? People feeling entitled to other countries public healthcare without paying a dime for the insurance. We pay for that shit too, with our lifelong taxes.

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politicalnonsens3 t1_j61t4g2 wrote

Costa Rica was an example I pulled out of my ass. Any country where palm trees grow will be fine.

But since you asked, I googled it, they have both public and private options, public option is only available to citizens of Costa Rica.

My assumption was that it was private, not sure why anyone would assume the goal was chasing free healthcare. My point was that if I have to pay for it anyway, I'm gonna pay someone else. Someone that also lives in the tropics.

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Sjstudionw t1_j5y3970 wrote

You do know that we have health care right? I have great health insurance, my partner has great health insurance. Most professionals in this country have health insurance. If you can’t afford it, it gets subsidized, if you’re truly poor it’s free or mostly free, and if you refuse to be bothered to even sign up for that, an ER can never turn you away. All this bullshit about America having “no healthcare” is sensational nonsense. Could it be better? Sure. But it’s not nonexistent, and if you do have good healthcare insurance that’s healthcare is leagues better than what you’re getting. Americans don’t often go to Canada for health treatment, plenty of Canadians come here for care all the time.

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Ray_Pingeau t1_j5z7znw wrote

You forgot to read all of my comment before commenting yourself

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1dererLives t1_j5vitam wrote

>Canada is more like the US than not. We have our differences, and many Canadians like to act smugly superiour to our friends to the South but we're very similar.

We have significant differences throughout society. Fot instance, the "perception of differences/pride/etc is a sign of Canadian smugness" cliche is an element of the Canadian inferiority complex, which is a cultural idiom that the US obviously doesn't have.

Generalizing Canadians in general is nonsensical. As a Nova Scotian, I'm well aware that I have very different different perceptions than Albertans do.

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putin_my_ass t1_j5vjdst wrote

Yeah we're much more regionally diverse than most of us are comfortable admitting.

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