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WoahayeTakeITEasy t1_j5wdunx wrote
Well, they talk about their first amendment rights being violated all the time... so no, they don't know where they are.
veerKg_CSS_Geologist t1_j5x5548 wrote
The leader of the CPC was busy retweeting about gas stoves over the weekend. Something that was a minor bruhaha in America last week but had nothing to do with Canada.
Ma1nta1n3r t1_j5vbr6i wrote
Don't bet on it. Right wingers tend to be immune to facts and embarrassment.
ErikETF t1_j5vk7ne wrote
I mean sadly they have no intention at stopping at international boarders, wish more people in the US and Canada got that.. =(
0pimo t1_j5wm9nv wrote
Khada_the_Collector t1_j5xgiy1 wrote
Seems as though it’s a loud group, but the numbers show most are good with staying in Canada (and who can blame them).
snagsguiness t1_j5xe5ei wrote
Economically it makes sense for Alberta
andygchicago t1_j5xjglt wrote
I remember back in the day when Quebec had serious thoughts of independence, economic experts said the most viable thing for the rest of Canada was to join the US
WhatDoYouMean951 t1_j5ych13 wrote
If Quebec left the roC would be sliced in half. The North-West territories create a land connection between BC and roC, but as best as I can tell there's no current road connections that don't go via Alberta. BC, NWT and Yukon would become a pene-exclave that separates the US exclave of Alaska from the main territory. I guess those same economic experts would make that same claim if Alberta joined the US.
andygchicago t1_j5yejdb wrote
I don’t see why geography would be a factor we literally have a state in the middle of an ocean. I’m sure they considered transport with Quebec as a thoroughfare
snagsguiness t1_j5yr6h9 wrote
For the US it’s not a factor for Canada it is a major one.
Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho t1_j5y9a7g wrote
Politically, the US would never accept it, at least not without Canada's approval, and a blue state to add to balance it out.
snagsguiness t1_j5yrnrx wrote
I would have though that Alberta would be purple.
Donut_of_Patriotism t1_j5yseqp wrote
All other considerations aside, can we just talk about how weird the shape of the US would be if this actually happened?
mobappbrowse t1_j5z6byj wrote
> Alberta has a succession movement where they want to join the USA.
*secession
0pimo t1_j61an0r wrote
Yeah whatever nerd.
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just make the whole of canada the 51st state fuck it
Disastrous-Carrot928 t1_j5xtyrj wrote
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putin_my_ass t1_j5v8aaa wrote
> Canada, don't be like us. We are doomed. Save yourselves.
Canada is more like the US than not. We have our differences, and many Canadians like to act smugly superiour to our friends to the South but we're very similar.
Ray_Pingeau t1_j5vbi43 wrote
If health care goes private, I’m gonna pull the bandaid off and move to the states because healthcare is the only real difference I see between our countries anymore. If I have to live in America, I’m gonna live in a warmer part of America.
Patchy248 t1_j5vfd51 wrote
The frequency of gun violence is enough to keep me up North
SentientHotdogWater t1_j5vii02 wrote
No public healthcare means a lack of treatment for mentally ill people. It's one of, but not the only, contributors to the mass shooting crisis in the US.
Patchy248 t1_j5viyvh wrote
As someone who lives with mental illness, our care is generally dogshit, but at least it won't make me go bankrupt
SentientHotdogWater t1_j5vjlgm wrote
As someone who also lives with mental illness, care in the US is also dogshit but it will make you go bankrupt.
Don't believe anyone who tells you privatization will improve quality. It won't.
Patchy248 t1_j5vkwt0 wrote
Agreed
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It does in Canada too if you want more in depth care than a doctor throwing pills at you.
SentientHotdogWater t1_j5wlmr1 wrote
A doctor throwing pills at you is a hell of a lot better than nothing, which is what we get without paying.
hummingbird_mywill t1_j5wzlhz wrote
Mental health care is essentially privatized in Canada. It’s terrible. You can’t really get care here unless you have someone actively advocating for you, sometimes not even then. Most of the mentally ill are in jail or on the streets, just like in the US. Only difference is that the jail sentences are shorter in Canada.
Ray_Pingeau t1_j5vfspv wrote
Wait for crime to go through for the roof when millions of Canadians can’t afford health care
TROPtastic t1_j5xlnpp wrote
But the Ontario Conservatives told me that privatization is the only way to save our healthcare system! They wouldn't lie to benefit their corporate donors, would they?
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1dererLives t1_j5vjan9 wrote
> healthcare is the only real difference I see between our countries anymore.
That speaks more to your own ignorance than anything else. A basic review of social statistics, public infrastructure, legal systems, etc, would demonstrate a myriad of differences.
And that doesn't even get into the fact that both countries have significant internal regional social differences.
SentientHotdogWater t1_j5vm51f wrote
>And that doesn't even get into the fact that both countries have significant internal regional social differences.
People from other countries literally cannot tell us apart.
The regional differences between Americans and Canadians aren't any greater than that between Americans from different states. In fact someone from Minnesota or Wisconsin is probably way closer culturally to someone from Ontario than they are to someone from Texas.
AftyOfTheUK t1_j5w03xg wrote
>People from other countries literally cannot tell us apart.
What does the media-warped opinion of people who have never lived in either country got to do with reality?
SentientHotdogWater t1_j5wmw9e wrote
It's not just people who live in other countries. FFS we can't tell each other apart a lot of the time.
Be honest. If someone who grew up in Seattle moved to Vancouver and didn't tell people they were American how long do you think it would take for people to figure it out?
If it weren't for Google I'd have no idea Keanu Reeves or Ryan Reynolds were Canadian.
Ok_Cranberry_1936 t1_j5xr3u3 wrote
Its clear you haven't spent much time in WA or BC then. We have vastly different cultures. And yes, we can spot Americans with ease.
SentientHotdogWater t1_j5yawaq wrote
Americans with a strong southern accents or people who like to walk around in cowboy hats? Sure.
But an American who grew up in a city, and doesn't have a strong regional accent in a city 2.5 hours away where the people also don't have a strong regional accent? Fuck no.
I know you can't because I've seen you not do it over and over.
Ok_Cranberry_1936 t1_j5z3wsz wrote
I'm born and raised in Vancouver. Been to Seattle hundreds of times. Family has a cabin in Birch Bay. Worked over 15 years in restaurants and hotels. I guarantee myself, and 90% of every coworker I've had in my career could pick Americans out of a line up, without fail, without them saying a word.
SentientHotdogWater t1_j5z4ipl wrote
Ok champ...
Ray_Pingeau t1_j5vmnp2 wrote
Sorry, but I’m looking at the immediate world around me. The rising gun violence, the incoming private health care. The rage farming politics. The fact that I can’t go a week supporting Canadian only businesses. Seeing confederate flags flying. Conservative MPs supporting the overturn of Roe v Wade. Consolidation of media. Then there is America owning more and more of Canada every year.
Obviously it’s not a spitting image of America but we are more American every year. You and I will view the world different ways. If you think Canada still has its own identity, that’s cool but i see something different and there’s no way you can change my mind on this when we are on our way to privatized healthcare on the backs of politicians that wish they were republicans.
hummingbird_mywill t1_j5wzb9z wrote
There are other differences too, as a Canadian now living in the US. The discussions around school districts here is out of control. The budgets for schools is tied to the average taxpayer, so the poor get worse education and the rich get better education, and the disparities grow. There is no maternity leave here. And the guns, like was mentioned. There remain many benefits to Canada.
politicalnonsens3 t1_j5w0poz wrote
I won't move yet but you can bet your ass I ain't sticking around for my retirement. Costa Rica has good health care.
TROPtastic t1_j5xlsgf wrote
How long until nations like Costa Rica shut their borders to retirees who didn't pay into their healthcare system? Or is private healthcare also affordable there?
shade990 t1_j5xxpw1 wrote
lmao right? People feeling entitled to other countries public healthcare without paying a dime for the insurance. We pay for that shit too, with our lifelong taxes.
politicalnonsens3 t1_j61t4g2 wrote
Costa Rica was an example I pulled out of my ass. Any country where palm trees grow will be fine.
But since you asked, I googled it, they have both public and private options, public option is only available to citizens of Costa Rica.
My assumption was that it was private, not sure why anyone would assume the goal was chasing free healthcare. My point was that if I have to pay for it anyway, I'm gonna pay someone else. Someone that also lives in the tropics.
Sjstudionw t1_j5y3970 wrote
You do know that we have health care right? I have great health insurance, my partner has great health insurance. Most professionals in this country have health insurance. If you can’t afford it, it gets subsidized, if you’re truly poor it’s free or mostly free, and if you refuse to be bothered to even sign up for that, an ER can never turn you away. All this bullshit about America having “no healthcare” is sensational nonsense. Could it be better? Sure. But it’s not nonexistent, and if you do have good healthcare insurance that’s healthcare is leagues better than what you’re getting. Americans don’t often go to Canada for health treatment, plenty of Canadians come here for care all the time.
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Ray_Pingeau t1_j5z7znw wrote
You forgot to read all of my comment before commenting yourself
1dererLives t1_j5vitam wrote
>Canada is more like the US than not. We have our differences, and many Canadians like to act smugly superiour to our friends to the South but we're very similar.
We have significant differences throughout society. Fot instance, the "perception of differences/pride/etc is a sign of Canadian smugness" cliche is an element of the Canadian inferiority complex, which is a cultural idiom that the US obviously doesn't have.
Generalizing Canadians in general is nonsensical. As a Nova Scotian, I'm well aware that I have very different different perceptions than Albertans do.
putin_my_ass t1_j5vjdst wrote
Yeah we're much more regionally diverse than most of us are comfortable admitting.
doketree t1_j5x06qb wrote
Canada is just quiet introverted US.
Hizjyayvu t1_j5v22od wrote
The southern right wing has emboldened the northern right. We are definitely in this together.
Western_Entertainer7 t1_j5xrztg wrote
🤣🤣🤣Yeah.... those left wing protesters are so much more polite and mostly-not-violenter.
Luder09 t1_j5v2ob0 wrote
Too late, they've been here awhile.
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rlmcgiffin t1_j5x6jkz wrote
Agreed. I hate the guy more than most. I am going to do the civil thing and not vote for him come time. It’s tacky and low-brow to do something like this.
homestead1111 t1_j5xdnb2 wrote
we gave you the proud boys and trailer park boys, nickleback and had Harper during Obama, and all sorts of stuff. it's more like Merica don't be like us.
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Who8MyCat t1_j5vuypu wrote
"Look at all these Libs calling people names!!"
*proceeds to call our Prime minister a cunt*
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Also insulting everyone else on this sub you can bitch at I see. I know projection tends to be the go to for you knuckle draggers but damn, lay off and go do something better with your day then act like a dick head on reddit
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R_Wallenberg t1_j5vvhw8 wrote
I have no issue with most of what you said.
Chasing or threatening violence is a no go. But calling names or giving critisism is fine and does not make someone unsafe, despite the perversion of the word "safe" and other words in our society.
hansobolo t1_j5w3uxo wrote
Are they doing it in person?
MH_Denjie t1_j5w5g3d wrote
I read swarmed in Ontario and immediately thought he was being assaulted by teenagers
BugsyMcNug t1_j5w9azq wrote
Its no joke. I dont even want to step foot in toronto these days. See a gaggle of teenage girls walking down the street and you better cross over to the other side lol.
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DonSalaam t1_j5v0u4o wrote
Trudeau's haters tend to be trashy right-wing knuckleheads.
Stopjuststop3424 t1_j5vi669 wrote
and American right wingers
deepseadinko t1_j5weolh wrote
Don't forget to add "Trailer trash" as well.
Stock_Rush2555 t1_j5yfbrf wrote
Don't lump people who live in trailers in with those folks
andygchicago t1_j5xjl8k wrote
Trudeau has a lot of hate to his left
_HossBonaventureCEO_ t1_j5ycdrt wrote
Ya, but we're a bit more graceful with our disdain. We aren't shrieking convoy monkeys.
Ok_World_8819 t1_j5vhymo wrote
They have a lower IQ than the preschoolers watching Barney The Dinosaur.
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SyralC t1_j5xjgqr wrote
It’s so sad man. I dislike Trudeau but this shit is just trashy.
JustVGames t1_j5xcdea wrote
Canada has an antivaxx moron problem.
homestead1111 t1_j5xdic1 wrote
americans attacked our P M?
TonCousinDeVicto t1_j5vzk9v wrote
How did they know he'd be going to that restaurant in particular?
veerKg_CSS_Geologist t1_j5x5zem wrote
They were "protesting" outside the Hotel he was having meetings at and then followed him.
_HossBonaventureCEO_ t1_j5yckqp wrote
Because they're obsessed with him.
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_HossBonaventureCEO_ t1_j5ysaly wrote
He is a pretty good looking dude.
Ok-Surround7986 t1_j5wobxr wrote
50 people if that..more of a group than a swarm
jimbalaya420 t1_j5xo7a6 wrote
He'll be alright, 5 fat pro-trumpers cant run very fast
GuyDanger t1_j5y6cyv wrote
Not surprised this was in Hamilton. Rebel news runs deep into these people.
Corrupted_G_nome t1_j608yb2 wrote
Rebels and free thinkers all with the same slogans and talking points...
_HossBonaventureCEO_ t1_j5ycryh wrote
"Swarmed"
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EzeakioDarmey t1_j5yrx73 wrote
Are people in Canada finally getting sick of his shit or is it just a "fringe minority" again?
Corrupted_G_nome t1_j609bpo wrote
What can we do? They have a right to their fringe protests... Even if they are breaking the civility of how we normally do it.
BetterLivingThru t1_j60f80g wrote
This specifically is a fringe minority, but also the current government is not that popular. The Conservatives have a good chance of forming government after the next election, though probably a minority government. I'm not thrilled with their leader Pierre Polievre though, he was my least favourite of Harper's ministers. Bellicose and good at sound bites, but I think he'll be shit at governing. So I imagine many Canadians will feel we have a tough choice.
PooShappaMoo t1_j5y64yx wrote
I can tell theirs alot of Americans in these comments.
Edit: just remember, American people. Canada's federal conservative party is typically about as right as your democratic party. Less the progressive wing
Don't try to compare our two government systems. Theirs enough dummies here who do that already
Corrupted_G_nome t1_j609d8e wrote
Eh?
PooShappaMoo t1_j60bhf0 wrote
I'm glad someone gets it 😀
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JustVGames t1_j5xcg2d wrote
Yet he keeps winning elections. Seems like Canadians hate the conservatives more.
andygchicago t1_j5xjuf4 wrote
Trudeau isn’t elected. That’s not how Canada works. Parties are elected, conditions are formed and the Prime Minister is appointed
grapehelium t1_j5xrmwf wrote
I may be wrong, but I believe that trudea actually lost the popular vote the last 2 elections.
IllSir t1_j5ybqox wrote
Popular vote doesn’t matter in Canada because you vote for your local representative not the party their apart of.
JustVGames t1_j5yd3p0 wrote
But remember, Canada also has the NDP. Left wing voters far o utnumber conservatives.
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chullyman t1_j5xdl93 wrote
The liberals got more seats than the conservatives.
_HossBonaventureCEO_ t1_j5ycnjx wrote
I don't vote for him but I certainly don't hate him.
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No, they're really not. They're inarticulate and don't even know what they're protesting. These idiots just want their guy in power, and that's where their thought process stops.
Stopjuststop3424 t1_j5vicco wrote
no these are idiots with ridiculous demands
politicalnonsens3 t1_j5w15gh wrote
No, these idiots are fed up with their own shitty lives and lashing out at anyone they can blame instead of taking even one single step to improve their shit lot in life.
Killmade t1_j5yga3g wrote
This thread is hilarious. Most of the people defending Trudeau are 100% Americans.
Corrupted_G_nome t1_j6097pq wrote
How so? He still won the election and as far as we know it was a fair victory. Im sure they have less supporters than they did then but possibly enough to support them forming government...
Killmade t1_j60b6ln wrote
You have no fucking clue how the Canadian government works
dushmanx t1_j612kcv wrote
Kinda funny you saw that, idk your stance but half the people in here are comparing these people to right wing trump supporters yet everyone but the right believes trump cheated the 2016 election then claim Trudeau won fairly as if elections can't be cheated.
Cykul t1_j5v9sx7 wrote
I find the American flag hilarious. Uh, they know it's a different country, right? Right!?