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CredibleCactus t1_j21qa39 wrote

Germany: you destroyed any reliance left when you blew up those pipes

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Typohnename t1_j21y176 wrote

Pretty much,

on that day the general opinion in Germany about Russian energy went from "It's difficult" to "It's over"

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BeaverOnFire t1_j22bdnx wrote

What are you talking about? It was over way before that, practically and in the publics opinion.

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Seth_Bader t1_j22wp1o wrote

Yea but politicians

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QueenVanraen t1_j22zbs0 wrote

Yeah, same with how they push for full surveillance every year only to get shot down, they'd have pushed for russian pipes still.

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Gammelpreiss t1_j243hfp wrote

not even that aside some singular opinions here and there.

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EnviousMind t1_j24po9k wrote

Not entirely true. There were always calls from small public groups and politicians in the opposition to get Nordstream 2 running.

THAT however ended with the burst of the pipes.

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CumtissueSevant t1_j22ksmz wrote

Is there evidence that Russia was responsible for the pipeline sabotage?

Apologies for the sincere question.

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origamiscienceguy t1_j22mwzg wrote

The fact that Russia wasn't threatening nuclear war on the one responsible.

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CumtissueSevant t1_j22nwld wrote

With all due respect, that’s not exactly evidence.

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origamiscienceguy t1_j22o8ef wrote

In world politics, courts and investigations matter little. Russia is going to blame whoever they want, and the rest of the world is not going to care.

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ric2b t1_j23too4 wrote

Something like that can't really be resolved in court anyway, so educated speculation is the best we're going to get.

Unless whoever did it screwed up and left some damning evidence behind.

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CumtissueSevant t1_j2507iz wrote

They are investigating the act though, I feel like it’s not unrealistic with satellite surveillance to have a chance of documenting which ships were near the explosions.

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