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Roughneck16 t1_iuikcn3 wrote

Reply to comment by aeinnajva in Iran's Growing Protests | r/WorldNews Reddit Talk 🎙️ by dieyoufool3

Given the Iranian government's monopoly on guns, I seriously doubt that will happen.

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3dio t1_iuiojoo wrote

Of course they can. That's been the illusion since feudal times. It's been proven to work

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66stang351 t1_iuitsrj wrote

Plenty of guns in Iran's neighbors and in countries with an interest in seeing the regime fall. The US, Israel, Saudis, Turkey, Pakistan, and the Saudis are all big powers in the region who prefer Iran be kept under wraps, without nuclear weapons. Any one of which has the resources to supply an uprising if one materializes.

Not saying a bloody uprising is a good thing, either on the world stage or Iranians. There is no gaurantee the next regime is much better, and you could even see ISIS enter the power vacuum like they have in Iran's neighbors. Granted Iran is Shia so they'd have a tougher road, but Iraq is mostly Shia too and I'm pretty sure ISIS claimed responsibility for an attack in Iran recently...

And without a 'rival' Iran, the Saudis might get even more emboldened. And they're pretty big dicks already

Would be cool if basic human rights were available though. Be a Muslim republic if you want, but hijabs should be seen as what they are..a damn fashion choice.

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WhoDaFooookIsThatGuy t1_iuj5jcq wrote

The days of the theocracy will hopefully soon be a thing of the past. The protestors shouldn't settle for anything less than the SECULAR REPUBLIC OF IRAN, with equal rights for everyone including LGBT people and atheists.

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marc297 t1_iuil51p wrote

Genuinely curious if regime changes have happened without guns. Are they 100% necessary?

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Spring-Both t1_iuimn9i wrote

The bigger issue is even if it does happen it’s rarely a good thing. Usually someone just as bad if not worse takes over in the chaos. A regime change without weapons when the other side has then and aren’t afraid to use them though is extremely unlikely.

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erfan226 t1_iujbdvv wrote

Someone worse? The Islamic Republic is the incarnation of pure evil.

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Spring-Both t1_iujbzcs wrote

Haven’t you ever heard the phrase “old boss is a jerk till you meet the new boss” it can always get worse. No matter how evil the current regime is there’s always someone out there who is even worse. You can disagree with me all you want but historically speaking regime changes rarely work out for the better feel free to look it up. People always like to point out of French Revolution but then ignore all the bad that happened during and after it was one step forward two steps back.

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erfan226 t1_iujdc0a wrote

I know what you mean. But the thing is, one should know about the context. That's why "historically speaking", this is one of those cases where the revolution might actually work for better. There are not many alternatives currently, but the people want to choose a new type of give after overthrowing this one. I'm not sure how familiar you are with IR, but there's nothing that they haven't done to the country and its people (maybe except bombing the people like they did in Syria). So any other alternative might actually be a little better. But that's what the people should decide.

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Spring-Both t1_iujf9ri wrote

The how bad it is doesn’t really affect how successful the new system will be and even I can think of ways for them to be more evil. I hope it works out for them I honestly do but the odds are against them even if they succeed.

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erfan226 t1_iujfxnp wrote

Sure. That's totally correct. I'm just saying with a revolution there is a possibility of things getting better. But without it, one can be sure that things will get much worse.

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66stang351 t1_iuiu1vb wrote

USSR fell without much in terms of fighting. The coup tried to roll out tanks but it definitely didn't work

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Spring-Both t1_iuiwtcy wrote

It’s unfortunately a different scenario the ussr had been collapsing for a long time and that’s not the case with Iran. Also the big thing is religious fanaticism, as long as they think they’re doing gods work they will mow down anyone who gets in their way they’ve proved that already.

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