Submitted by dieyoufool3 t3_yigef7 in worldnews
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Roughneck16 t1_iuikcn3 wrote
Given the Iranian government's monopoly on guns, I seriously doubt that will happen.
3dio t1_iuiojoo wrote
Of course they can. That's been the illusion since feudal times. It's been proven to work
66stang351 t1_iuitsrj wrote
Plenty of guns in Iran's neighbors and in countries with an interest in seeing the regime fall. The US, Israel, Saudis, Turkey, Pakistan, and the Saudis are all big powers in the region who prefer Iran be kept under wraps, without nuclear weapons. Any one of which has the resources to supply an uprising if one materializes.
Not saying a bloody uprising is a good thing, either on the world stage or Iranians. There is no gaurantee the next regime is much better, and you could even see ISIS enter the power vacuum like they have in Iran's neighbors. Granted Iran is Shia so they'd have a tougher road, but Iraq is mostly Shia too and I'm pretty sure ISIS claimed responsibility for an attack in Iran recently...
And without a 'rival' Iran, the Saudis might get even more emboldened. And they're pretty big dicks already
Would be cool if basic human rights were available though. Be a Muslim republic if you want, but hijabs should be seen as what they are..a damn fashion choice.
WhoDaFooookIsThatGuy t1_iuj5jcq wrote
The days of the theocracy will hopefully soon be a thing of the past. The protestors shouldn't settle for anything less than the SECULAR REPUBLIC OF IRAN, with equal rights for everyone including LGBT people and atheists.
marc297 t1_iuil51p wrote
Genuinely curious if regime changes have happened without guns. Are they 100% necessary?
Spring-Both t1_iuimn9i wrote
The bigger issue is even if it does happen itās rarely a good thing. Usually someone just as bad if not worse takes over in the chaos. A regime change without weapons when the other side has then and arenāt afraid to use them though is extremely unlikely.
erfan226 t1_iujbdvv wrote
Someone worse? The Islamic Republic is the incarnation of pure evil.
Spring-Both t1_iujbzcs wrote
Havenāt you ever heard the phrase āold boss is a jerk till you meet the new bossā it can always get worse. No matter how evil the current regime is thereās always someone out there who is even worse. You can disagree with me all you want but historically speaking regime changes rarely work out for the better feel free to look it up. People always like to point out of French Revolution but then ignore all the bad that happened during and after it was one step forward two steps back.
erfan226 t1_iujdc0a wrote
I know what you mean. But the thing is, one should know about the context. That's why "historically speaking", this is one of those cases where the revolution might actually work for better. There are not many alternatives currently, but the people want to choose a new type of give after overthrowing this one. I'm not sure how familiar you are with IR, but there's nothing that they haven't done to the country and its people (maybe except bombing the people like they did in Syria). So any other alternative might actually be a little better. But that's what the people should decide.
Spring-Both t1_iujf9ri wrote
The how bad it is doesnāt really affect how successful the new system will be and even I can think of ways for them to be more evil. I hope it works out for them I honestly do but the odds are against them even if they succeed.
erfan226 t1_iujfxnp wrote
Sure. That's totally correct. I'm just saying with a revolution there is a possibility of things getting better. But without it, one can be sure that things will get much worse.
66stang351 t1_iuiu1vb wrote
USSR fell without much in terms of fighting. The coup tried to roll out tanks but it definitely didn't work
Spring-Both t1_iuiwtcy wrote
Itās unfortunately a different scenario the ussr had been collapsing for a long time and thatās not the case with Iran. Also the big thing is religious fanaticism, as long as they think theyāre doing gods work they will mow down anyone who gets in their way theyāve proved that already.
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arash2003 t1_iuinlpu wrote
I'm from Iran and currently living in Iran. I would be happy to answer any questions.
SadSlaphead t1_iuj2ucn wrote
Do you receive any information on the worldwide protests? How is the morale of the people now?
Trayeth t1_iujoruj wrote
Is there any view among the people that there needs to be constitutional reform to remove the Theocratic elements, or is it more big picture than that?
canadianredditor16 t1_iujhue5 wrote
Tell me would you support a return to the shahdom
JohnnytheFox81HA t1_iuiq57s wrote
The US says it will "not waste" more time on the Iran Nuclear Deal. If the current regime topples, what will be Iran's stance on nuclear weapons?
dieyoufool3 OP t1_iuiqmnh wrote
A good question - if that occurs, we'll have another Reddit Talk and be sure to ask your question first thing!
JohnnytheFox81HA t1_iuisrey wrote
Remember to invite me please.
Trayeth t1_iujoo2a wrote
It depends on how receptive and supportive the West is of the new government. If they actually hold a free and fair non-Theocratic election, there may be a rapprochement. I wonder how Saudi Arabia and Israel would react haha
thuglifeforlife t1_iuiyzyu wrote
Having nuclear weapons stops the country from getting invaded by stronger countries. Nukes might not be used in war but it's also a safeguard for weaker countries.
NegotiationTall4300 t1_iuiubzf wrote
I know it's never that cut and dry, but what do you think will be the or a key indicator of the toppling of the current regime as this continues?
kubilay-lay t1_iuij5z0 wrote
Jin Jiyan Azadi / woman life freedom
kubilay-lay t1_iuijhd3 wrote
btw el cezire is qatar foundation they are just stregthning the regimes story of evil sunnis.
BoatyMacBoaterFace t1_iuihrz7 wrote
Hey @dieyoufool3 I definitely enjoy these chats! :)
dieyoufool3 OP t1_iuiijvh wrote
This warms my heart! We're just volunteers, so kind words like yours motivates us to keep this up.
FreeTapir t1_iuijbig wrote
Keep going ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
arash2003 t1_iuil0ck wrote
The economy is going through bankruptcy because most of the share holders in stock market are selling their shares and it has cause the government to buy the shares themselves.
StPariah t1_iuiht70 wrote
Much love you werenāt lying about all of the insta views during test two
f-edupstranger t1_iuiiazl wrote
How would she assess the real chance that the protests might transform into a definite revolution?
dieyoufool3 OP t1_iuiiqsa wrote
I'll be sure to ask that if Akaash or Dorsa don't touch on it before we get to community questions~
Edit: Just asked!
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UncertainlyUnfunny t1_iuimqex wrote
Al Jazeera said both: western influence is fueling protests now, and that it has in the past. Do they have evidence of current western intervention or is that just based on what they saw in the past?
DerGalant t1_iuj0va2 wrote
Al Jazeera is full of shit
Zealousideal-Ruin691 t1_iuiye7j wrote
Did Al Jazeera say the west was 'directly' involved? ... if not, they are technically correct. The west has more freedoms, including women's rights. So indirectly the west is influencing things by showing that women can have rights.
UncertainlyUnfunny t1_iujandx wrote
I think that the speaker implied more that western interests were helping to support and ferment this particular effort and stage directly, as had been, apparently historically the case. But I also noticed that they waffled, and I was looking for further clarity. I think any journalistic organization should be evidence-based
011100110110 t1_iuipv2o wrote
Isn't the government murdering and oppressing it's people, especially young woman what is fueling the protests?
UncertainlyUnfunny t1_iuiudpz wrote
Yes but the Al Jazeera spox said Western influence was somehow involved
SirJackson360 t1_iuihw5g wrote
Glad to be here @dieyoufool3 Hope you are well and thanks for these chats!
-Prof. J
dieyoufool3 OP t1_iuiii4u wrote
Thanks for being here!
SirJackson360 t1_iuiogd1 wrote
Let me know if you ever need a prof. who writes about the future of tech and society.
FoxtrotKe t1_iuijzd7 wrote
The economic situation, unemployment have also been a huge factor
SirJackson360 t1_iuio32p wrote
Whatās next? Where is the future of these protests in our speakers mind?
Intrepid_Egg_7722 t1_iuihxuz wrote
Jazzy music is jazzy.
Stitch25691 t1_iuiih7h wrote
Nice to join. Most every Government involves certain levels of Religious control.
What is the driving factor, in an Iranian Culture, would the General Iranian Population support in defense of liberty.
No_Pen_1510 t1_iuil8jc wrote
How many are willing to die for change freedom isn't free you pay with your life.
Jaster22101 t1_iuin0rn wrote
The Arab spring had mixed success
kimberskillfast t1_iuirjwv wrote
Women can bring all Islamicly repressive nations to their knees if they merely stood together. There is no Iran without a womb.
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humblehistorian55 t1_iuiloye wrote
Thank you for the information
davyget t1_iuike5e wrote
Hey
mrelieb t1_iuii6g3 wrote
I see iranians protesting in U.S and Europe and I say to myself if yall had the same ballz as those who are standing up to the government in Iran, maybe something would have changed... So easy to say I support you lol
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AkaashMaharaj t1_iuihsj7 wrote
It has been forty-five days since Mahsa Amini, a 22 year-old Kurdish-Iranian woman, died in police custody in Iran. She had been arrested by Iranās religious morality police for not wearing the hijab, as required by the state. Eyewitnesses report that police beat her viciously before her death.
Her death has unleashed waves of mass protests across Iran, often under the slogan āWomen, Life, Freedomā, and often led by young women. The government of Iran has responded with repression, and by cutting off internet access in the province of Kurdistan.
Many observers are asking if this could be the beginning of a new phase of mass repression by the Iranian state, or the beginning of the end for the Iranian regime.
We are delighted to have Dorsa Jabbari with us to discuss the protests, their impact in Iran, and the potential consequences across the world.
Dorsa Jabbari was born in Iran and immigrated to Canada at the age of ten. She completed a Bachelor degree in English and Fine Art History from the University of Toronto. After five years working at CTV, Canadaās largest private television network, Dorsa moved to Qatar, to join the launch of Al Jazeera English. She returned to Iran in 2010, to work as Al Jazeeraās primary correspondent in the country.
She tweets at @DorsaJabbari
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Alex will moderate the written discussion thread, and will put a representative cross-section of questions and comments to our guest. Alex leads some of Redditās largest communities, including r/WorldNews, r/News, r/Politics, and r/Geopolitics.
Willian will support the Talk. He leads a range of Reddit communities, including r/WorldNews, r/AskLatinAmerica, r/Brazil, and r/Europe. He tweets at @Tetizera.
I, Akaash, will moderate the conversation. Outside Reddit, I serve as Ambassador-at-Large for the Global Organization of Parliamentarians Against Corruption, and as a Senior Fellow at the University of Torontoās School of Global Affairs. At Reddit, I lead the r/Equestrian community. I tweet at @AkaashMaharaj and I am on Instagram at @AkaashMaharaj.
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Dorsa Jabbari
- Web site: At Al Jazeera
- Twitter: @DorsaJabbari
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metalheadx7 t1_iuiisac wrote
To stop Russia and China, could the USA+West shake hands with Iran and remove all sanctions.
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aeinnajva t1_iuijtjp wrote
We only want complete regime change.no reforms