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CaregiverNo421 t1_j9ef12u wrote

Reply to comment by ApocalypseSpokesman in World to face wars over food and water without climate action, EU green deal chief says by YoanB

No governments can do that with good messaging. Remember COVID lockdowns? Realistically the sacrifices would be no where near the level of locldowns

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ApocalypseSpokesman t1_j9fhcq0 wrote

What are you talking about?

The sacrifices would be an order of magnitude greater than that, and the success of "good messaging" was spotty at best,

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CaregiverNo421 t1_j9flh7b wrote

Ehh, what do you mean by an order of magnitude greater than 'Don't leave your house except to exercise once per day? With hospitality etc completely shut down. Like an order of magnitude greater than that is what, returning to the pre industrial societies?

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ApocalypseSpokesman t1_j9fmxaf wrote

Something like that, yes. It's a mathematical impossibility to keep billions of people alive without adding to the CO2 problem, so this is the kind of thing it would take to achieve negative emissions:

"Food is your own concern, but we're going to impound and destroy every automobile and gas-powered device so you don't get any ideas. Also, say goodbye to electricity, and water may be spotty. Don't complain or we will execute you. If we catch anyone burning wood, the whole household's going in the ground."

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Shock_n_Oranges t1_j9fpvib wrote

More realistically populations and governments will turn to war with neighbors over the resources.

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