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Unique-Public-8594 t1_ix50tvk wrote

Quick facts:

Broadway and Caroline Streets, Saratoga Springs.

3a, altercation between 3 or more people from Utica and an off-duty Rutland Sheriff.

Sheriff was ordered 8 times to get down on the ground and did not obey. Instead, he turned toward officers with gun in hand.

He (Vito Caselnova, IV) took 10 bullets. Expected to survive. His girlfriend was also wounded in the shooting.

Update/details of altercation: https://www.news10.com/news/crime/police-investigating-saratoga-shooting/

Source/Name of sheriff, includes 3 videos: https://wnyt.com/top-stories/police-investigate-officer-involved-shooting/

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ARealVermontar t1_ix522cj wrote

And the police shooting happened after he had already gotten himself involved in a shootout.

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ElisabetSobeckPhD t1_ix5eapr wrote

I think it happened outside of wheatfields, but certainly they weren't actually involved. wheatfields is a nicer restaurant and definitely is not open at 3am. there's only like 5 or 6 bars open at that time iirc.

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Vtfla t1_ix5ddar wrote

He’s lucky the local cops have terrible aim.

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IsraelZulu t1_ix5z19u wrote

10 hits out of "10 or 11" shots is actually pretty good aim compared to most officer-involved shooting stories.

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rosie666 t1_ix7qnn5 wrote

It's usually 10 shots fired, 1 grazed suspect, 3 in playground, 2 in senior center, 4 unaccounted for.

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johneerottn2dacore t1_ixbt0t7 wrote

Isn't it fun? let's turn it into a game where we all carry and shoot based on emotion and nobody does anything but post online about it. Wait, that's exactly what we're gonna keep doing. wow...

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whaletacochamp t1_ix5eaz0 wrote

Took 10 bullets or had 10 fired at him?

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Advanced-Angle-1509 t1_ix5i6cf wrote

Y’all don’t even know the full story and are already making comments on how he shouldn’t have brought a gun to a bar? Wheat fields is a restaurant ya morons.

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K9Marz919 t1_ix5iob3 wrote

That was open until 3am. Sounds like a bar to me. How’s that boot taste?

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Unique-Public-8594 t1_ix5ks9x wrote

I think he was at an area bar but then the street fight broke out elsewhere/Wheatfields. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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Corey307 t1_ix8b874 wrote

It’s 3 AM, people are generally drinking and not dining out at 3 AM. People generally don’t get into a fight with strangers while dining at 3 AM. If the version of events is true the Deputy may have been defending himself. That said if you’re so drunk or high that you cannot follow police orders to drop a firearm you should not be carrying, likewise one should not carry when drinking or going to bars. The incident happened in front of a restaurant that was not open, the guy was out drinking got into some shit two men pulled guns and then when the cop showed up after gunfire was exchanged the shithead part time Rutland deputy got himself shot 10 times.

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Cobdain t1_ixpf4kw wrote

You ever been in a firefight? Ever fired a gun (pistol) with no hearing protection? Didn’t think so, sit the fuck down and stop theorizing when you know nothing of that fog that overtakes a situation where weapons of death are used against you and others in close proximity.

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Corey307 t1_ixpjmds wrote

Blah blah blah I’ve shot tens and tens of thousands of rounds over the years and yeah I know what it’s like to shoot a firearm without ear pro. My tinnitus is ringing as I type. Deputy Stupid was drunk and refused to drop his gun even when guns were drawn on him by cops. He was given multiple commands to drop his gun by police in uniform and he refused to so he got shot. And don’t you dare lecture me about firearms and gunfights when you limp wristed your Glock and caused it to malfunction repeatedly. Because that’s pretty much the only thing that will cause the Glock to malfunction unless you were feeding it reloads.

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Cobdain t1_ixrgjgy wrote

Hahaha, well at least you aren’t a complete lost cause. He had his back to the police, so didn’t matter what they were wearing and do you hear them ever identify themselves? For the glock who tf knows why it did that. It was brand new and it was 15 degrees outside. Never did it again and I’ve never been limp in my life bud 😘

Happy cake do too

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YPG-Got-Raqqa t1_ix9cyew wrote

> Y’all don’t even know the full story and are already making comments on how he shouldn’t have brought a gun to a bar? Wheat fields is a restaurant ya morons.

lmao yes dude you shouldn't bring a fucking tool designed to kill anyone you can point at into a bar OR restaurant. If he didn't do that he wouldn't have been shot and would still be a cop.

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