Submitted by GivenAllTheFucksSry t3_11tdhz2 in vermont
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Fantastic_Painter_15 t1_jcjz54f wrote
You still can dude. There is effectively a 0% chance of being arrested for that
HomeOnTheMountain_ t1_jcjuwf1 wrote
This does not give you legal protections.
Corey307 t1_jckisef wrote
These laws would not give you federal protection but look at states that have legalized recreational marijuana, it doesn’t seem like state and local police are cooperating with the feds to go after people. You’d be in the clear at the state level and the only way the feds could do anything is with state cooperation. Considering the FBI isn’t staking out every dispensary in states that have legalized pot I’d say you’re pretty protected.
HomeOnTheMountain_ t1_jclf7ei wrote
This is a bad argument. You're staking your freedom or others freedom on an assumption. Legal rights are binary - they exist or they don't.
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Arguably, no one is being arrested for mushrooms in vermont at the moment regardless of this legislation (if it passes). You do, however, run the risk of someone going nuts and trying to push these laws by opening a dispensary or flaunting federal rules too much which draws attention from the feds. Totally hypothetical until its not
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Not to mention that mushrooms are not cannabis. They're not physically dangerous (well, arguably) but they're not without risk. Unfortunately most folks are too ignorant to do any research on them so they just treat them like weed. That's not the case, and one really really bad incident would be all it takes to reverse public opinion, repeating the 70s propagana bull shit all over again.
twowheels t1_jcln3mc wrote
It seems that the most likely bad incident would be a case of misidentification, which already happens, no? It’s definitely something I think of often as an avid forager of edibles.
I guess if a dispensary sold some mid-identified mushrooms that would give them just the justification they’d be looking for to crack down.
amoebashephard t1_jcjwcyj wrote
I know this is slightly off topic, but decriminalization of psychedelic mushrooms would enable some additional environmental remediation efforts around farms.
Currently we're only able to conduct research on the ability of certain mushrooms to uptake nutrients with spores and aren't able to propagate. We know that they are really amazing at dealing with phosphorus, and that they are really good at accumulating heavy metals.
Drug laws have additional effects beyond just people using drugs
d-cent t1_jcko88z wrote
Great point, that doesn't get brought up enough. The war on drugs actually hurts the environment as well.
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whaletacochamp t1_jckrf4o wrote
Magic shrooms fucking love cow shit. The farm kids always had the best shrooms lol.
fenderdude t1_jck8abz wrote
If people really cared about mental health in VT, they would approve this asap. Given the positive impact, Psilocybin has on ptsd, addiction, depression etc.
plankton-718 t1_jcorrk2 wrote
yes, yes and yes.
msleibowitz t1_jcjza5z wrote
I would love to be able to buy it in a nice clean dispensary. Preferably one that has treats for my dogs like the nice ones in Mass. That would be a lovely treat for this empty nester aging hippy.
The3ncrypted1 t1_jck9bjf wrote
Please, it took the green mountain state 10 years to get cannabis approved. Do you really think they can move quickly on something as simple as a mushroom even the VA is approving it.
Klashus t1_jcmh8m3 wrote
Scott won't sign this lol. He's got big pharmacy backing. He only signed onto weed because it might have cost him the election.
xxxDog_Fucker_69xxx t1_jcl6co2 wrote
Make psychs legal, keep hard drugs illegal.
Kinda counter intuitive stance on combating the drug epidemic by removing the biggest deterrent to them.
JodaUSA t1_jcpqayr wrote
What's the biggest deterrent to the drug epidemic exactly?
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cohray2212 t1_jck21yk wrote
Yeah, because arresting all the druggies and putting them all in the same place with violent criminals, where they receive zero help and their lives are ruined as they're ground into the cogs of our prison system has been soooo effective.
How many hours of cable news does one have to watch to be convinced sticking that fork into the outlet a third time is a good idea? You seem qualified to answer that.
xen05zman t1_jck8lxc wrote
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You can't get addicted to shrooms.
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The drug epidemic is happening because of meth, cocaine, fentanyl, heroin...
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Your brain develops a tolerance to shrooms so quickly that the shrooms drastically lose their effect in the weeks after consumption, which is why it's generally advised you wait a few weeks before having another full dose. So few people actually consume shrooms to get fucked up on a regular basis.
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No one is consuming shrooms on a regular basis considering the above and just how expensive they are.
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Shrooms have been proven to have medical benefits, namely in treating mental disorders while micro dosing (doses small enough that they wouldnt cause any hallucinations or highs).
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Your comment just screams Nixon / Reagan generation byproduct.
The3ncrypted1 t1_jck9rb3 wrote
Is your last name Anslinger? It’s people like you that make us the laughingstock of the cannabis and healthcare industry.
Worf_In_A_Party_Hat t1_jcjbf0a wrote
I really hope this goes through this time. I just want to be able to eat mushrooms once or twice a year without worrying about getting arrested.