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QristopherQuixote t1_jct97m7 wrote

In the Western world, all denominations of christianity are declining. However, Catholicism is declining faster than most protestant denominations and certainly the large ones. Catholic Churches in the US are closing much faster than any that are opening with the total net closure rate in the double digits.

Medieval Catholicism is out of step with the modern world. While it is unclear when it will happen, the pope will become irrelevant everywhere except maybe the developing world later this century.

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antiauthoritarian123 t1_jctvj1e wrote

I'm not arguing or denying... But do you have a source for this

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QristopherQuixote t1_jctzuw0 wrote

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/09/13/modeling-the-future-of-religion-in-america/

https://news.gallup.com/poll/341963/church-membership-falls-below-majority-first-time.asp

^^^ Check decline of Catholicism compared to Protestants - 2x

https://research.lifeway.com/2021/05/25/protestant-church-closures-outpace-openings-in-u-s/

https://www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=85303

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_Christianity_in_the_Western_world

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Feisty_Jury_5325 t1_jctz2kt wrote

Not sure why this was downvoted. I’m a devout Catholic and I would say everything you mention here is right on the money.

There are small factions of revivals that are proponents of the Latin mass but most people today are turned off by the 70/80s brutalist, carpeted versions of the Mass.

We watered it down for everyone and wonder why we now appeal to no one.

I have friends who are priests and seminarians and the diocesan mergers are picking up speed. Priests are overworked and leaving their posts.

If the Catholic Church was a Business it would be Dunder Mifflin.

God bless everyone.

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penregalia t1_jcuvc69 wrote

I've got a buddy obsessed with Latin Mass. Routinely rails against the evils of Vatican II. I think it's more easily explained that anyone not repulsed by the demonstrable evils of the clergy against children wants things going backwards and more conservative. It's just funny cherry-picking Catholic dogma/rules to serve your worldview.

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Feisty_Jury_5325 t1_jcv29d8 wrote

Ignoring the structure and dealings of bishops with pedophile Priests in history certainly doesn’t make you seem more credible.

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Chessracer t1_jcuiznk wrote

Today I learned questioning mainstream religious doctrine gets you brigaded on this sub.

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JeffFromSchool t1_jcv0d75 wrote

Decline is one thing, but US protestants, specifically evangelicals, are definitely the most out of touch Christians. I'd love to see them take the same stance as the pope on homosexuality.

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adamcoe t1_jcv468v wrote

Good. It's long, long overdue. Let's make the pope irrelevant everywhere.

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