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freecain t1_iwbv71k wrote

Refers to women as "Female" hangs out with guys who call someone's girlfriend ugly to their face, broke up with a girl because of how attractive he thought other people found her, broke up with again because someone else thought she was weird.... Whoa, future incel here.

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trikristmas t1_iwcqpja wrote

He calls himself a male in the same sentence yet you pick that side huh. You know without the internet the issue around the word female wouldn't even be on anyone's horizon. Or without Reddit maybe more specifically.

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freecain t1_iwcyx7o wrote

That isn't any better, but Incels have a habit of using the term "female" in ways that just don't flow normally. Nothing inherently wrong with this, but it is a trend.

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trikristmas t1_iwd1lpb wrote

I guess I'd need examples but I'm sure women can be used the same way. All about the tone and context. Still, how does that relate to the present example?

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zialucina t1_iwdpfhw wrote

No. Woman is a noun that specifically refers to adult humans. "Female" is an adjective that describes physical sex characteristics of many millions of species from plants to animals, and even sometimes inanimate objects. Unless you say "female person" it's very, very dehumanizing outside of a clinical setting. Internet or no.

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trikristmas t1_iwdpvyw wrote

Ok, so why don't males get anal about it then? I'm male. Let me hear you say it too, male. I promise I won't get mad.

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zialucina t1_iwecc5o wrote

I don't hear men referred to as males very often. People usually just say men. That would bother me too if it was something in frequent use.

And most definitely there aren't a significant and vocal population of women who refer to men as males purposely to dehumanize them, so when it is used, it's more likely to just be seen as weird as an individual comment and not a cultural issue.

Btw I'm not talking about when someone identifies themselves like me (f45) and my partner (m41) kind of way.

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trikristmas t1_iwftthy wrote

Every police report says, a 6 foot male suspect... What do you mean you don't hear it much? Like this very post here, it said male and female and you were instantly triggered about the female aspect only. It was such a brief mention of identification. You say you're not talking about mxx, fxx, that's the only mention that this post had about it in its entirety. Problem is, I constantly see other women write posts and use the term female themselves who aren't bothered by it either. That dehumanisation part, do people writing it realise themselves they are doing that or is it just people like you who find it dehumanising? You're just saying every time someone uses the term they are being purposely dehumanising, nah I think they are just using words to communicate and you are the one saying they are being dehumanising.

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zialucina t1_iwh9yi3 wrote

My first comment explicitly excludes clinical contexts. Formal reports, medical studies and literature, etc are clinical.

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shorterthanyou15 t1_iwg73vg wrote

r/MenAndFemales

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trikristmas t1_iwg9d4y wrote

Yeah I know that sub. You'd only visit that sub if your intention is to feel offended. That's not part of my life experience any other time. I wouldn't get offended by simply using the term male or female in a generic context, but hey anyone is welcome to be offended by whatever. Doesn't mean everyone will agree to conform to that.

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joliver73 t1_iwcv569 wrote

Dude are you kidding me, literally almost every single post referring to a woman on this app mentions their age and the letter “F” All he did was spell out the letter.

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freecain t1_iwdbhkl wrote

It's just a common turn of phrase used by Incels. Not sure if you're oblivious to that, or just being defensive in the "not all men" vein of responses.

There isn't anything wrong with "females" as a term inherently, but it is a more clinical term and you find it a lot in really bad pick-up books. The choice of term is meant to dehumanize women (much in the way "girls" can often be used to diminish a woman's standing or accomplishments). It's not necessarily done intentionally, but it plays into a larger trend with the rest of his comment that this guy is pretty down the path to full blown incel.

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