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HaggisLad t1_j65dwut wrote

the only way to have basic coding go obsolete is for users to learn how to define their requirements... so never then. All they will end up with is the equivalent of advanced recorded macros

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anlumo t1_j681lo3 wrote

If it can be used by a senior dev to produce code quickly, it could be a big win.

Also, the dev role would change to be more of a requirements analyst. Devs right now have to carry many hats, cutting down on that is also a big plus.

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HaggisLad t1_j68394j wrote

No such thing as a senior Dev once nobody is coming through the pipeline

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anlumo t1_j683ix3 wrote

Yeah, that's one of the things I've been mulling over.

However, in a way, this discussion isn't new. Developers these days in general don't start with writing assembly any more (which I actually did when I was 15) and so don't really understand how a CPU works. That has caused some of the same arguments. But has it become a problem really?

These days, developers start at a higher level of thinking about writing programs and go from there. AI code generators just raise that level even higher.

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rastilin t1_j68hl93 wrote

To be honest, it would be really cool to have something like a compiler that can understand your code well enough to generate optimized assembly instead of interpreted javascript.

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Scoob1978 t1_j66wfm2 wrote

Jokes on them. I haven't coded in BASIC in decades.

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SkaldCrypto t1_j65964j wrote

Very poorly written. Author should have asked chatgpt to define some of these terms before publishing this.

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PerpetuallyOffline t1_j66w2rj wrote

Based on what I've seen when users from other domains jump into low-code applications, programmers are still going to be needed.

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GrayBox1313 t1_j66y0l4 wrote

Engineers are the most expensive employees in any org outside of executives. It makes sense someone is trying to “solve that problem”. Even if you could reduce a team of 6 to 2 plus AI tools, that’s a massive cost savings

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goomyman t1_j67z1rv wrote

Easy coding has been obsolete since forever.

Every language updates makes coding “complex” things easier.

C to c++. Classes make things easier.

C++ to Java - managed code makes things easier

Python - simpler syntax makes things easier.

Can’t code at all? Use widgets in an if this than that visual workflow.

Want to create a website for your business… a non tech mom/dad can do it.

Want to deploy a new webservice all over the world with infinite scale. Push a button - and have a lot of money.

Backups, offline storage, server upgrades, geo redundancy- one button press away.

It’s not about coding. Its always been problem solving. Let me know when an AI can problem solve.

There has always been a wizard or template to create awesome websites. If an AI can save me from copy pasting a change or perform a refactoring pattern with a push of a button that’s an awesome time saver. But that value is over exaggerated. Because it’s a known problem.

When AIs can solve unknown problems and create business solutions that’s when it gets really valuable

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JustinBrower t1_j66thsn wrote

And I've hired an army of contractors to make basic cooking obsolete. It's called fast food. WTF is this article?

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Akul_Tesla t1_j65a5fx wrote

My thoughts on are this The AIs are going to need to be supervised because if they mess up the company is still going to be liable so you're still going to have just the same people doing the work they're just going to be inspecting might be a bit more efficient but it's not going to erase the jobs

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thegram16 t1_j65gndk wrote

Yes, just the same people will still be working, and it's not going to erase existing jobs, but the demand for new software developers will naturally decrease as this gets better.

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Akul_Tesla t1_j65gtq0 wrote

Except for the fact that the demand for software is growing It should even out or possibly still grow

This is also give me one of those cases where boot camp kids are going to have a problem but degrees are going to be fine there's the higher level skills are going to become more important

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thegram16 t1_j65h9v8 wrote

It's going to get harder for BSc grads as well, because a chunk of them start off in the same position as those coding bootcamp kids.

My guess is that the industry will require increasingly higher education, more experience, and specified knowledge like the life sciences today. It's not impossible to get a good position in biotech when you graduate with a bio degree from college

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Crylar t1_j67mumt wrote

So they are going to basically replace stackedoverflow. :-)

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fishdog1 t1_j65wq9e wrote

The robots taking are jobs is happening a lot faster than I thought it would.

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forksporkspoon t1_j664jns wrote

The army of contract developers will work the way they always do. The army of contract BA's, project managers, and other managers will work the same way they always do. As usual, it will take years to get nothing done but a lot of money will be spent.

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lonewalker1992 t1_j68ots9 wrote

Openai has like the only Marketing team in tech that actually does work

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eldedomedio t1_j65s04p wrote

The "hottest new programming language" should be called ambiguity or uncertainty.

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crusoe t1_j694lx9 wrote

40% of copilot generated code has security issues according to a study last year.

Also the unsettled issue of copyright poisoning.

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ryebrye t1_j66fq72 wrote

One thing that I could see a large language model doing an interesting job at is translating programs from one language to another.

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