Submitted by galactic-arachnid t3_y29qtk in singularity
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ChronoPsyche t1_is2napm wrote
I doubt it had any conscious experience. Way too low complexity of a system for that. Still, really fucking insane that they could basically build AI with human neurons. I didn't even know that was a thing.
subdep t1_is3bike wrote
Wouldn’t that be Natural Intelligence since it’s human neurons?
ChronoPsyche t1_is3dvgr wrote
Nope. It's still artificial because they are grown by humans using extracted stem cells and are artificially stimulated and modulated by humans.
Natural intelligence would be intelligence that emerges entirely from natural processes, aka evolution.
Its not about the material but the process. They are natural cells and we are making use of their natural properties, but intelligence refers to the overall activity taking place. Neuron cells in a petri dish don't naturally act intelligent without human intervention.
subdep t1_is43l8g wrote
By your logic though, we could categorize most humans who use smartphones with social media as artificial since they are processing data and information in a way manipulated by scientists conducting experiments in order to shape the results.
ChronoPsyche t1_is4xp9l wrote
What? That makes no sense. Humans using smart phone with social media is not intelligence at all or any discrete phenomena being studied in a lab. Nobody is claiming that humans using smartphones with social media is artificial or natural. That's not even a useful descriptor for such a general set of activities as such.
The data being processed is also not manipulated by scientists conducting experiments. What scientist is conducting an experiment on the set of all humans using smartphones? You totally are confused here.
My logic would say that the smart phones themselves are artifical, because they were developed by humans. Likewise, if intelligence arises from an artificial process, then that intelligence is artifical. For something to be natural, it has to have arisen from a natural process.
subdep t1_is5ijun wrote
ChronoPsyche t1_is5jnfk wrote
Your extrapolating erroneously. My statement was specifically about creating intelligence. Not every experiment is about creating something and the question of artifical vs natural is not something that applies to the situation you are referring to.
Also, social media itself is not an experiment. The existence of an experiment within the context of social media does not mean that the entire social media paradigm is some experiment in a lab.
Instead of doing "whataboutism" why don't you explain why my logic is faulty. If a process is created though artifical means, how is it not artificial? Artifical refers to the intelligence, not the substrate.
genshiryoku t1_is57fww wrote
I artificially built my child in one night and 9 months of gestation by my wife. It reached AGI years ago.
ChronoPsyche t1_is580oi wrote
The entire process of human development is natural. The only human directed effort is sex, which is basically the planting of a seed. Even then, since sex is driven by natural instincts, it too is natural.
3Quondam6extanT9 t1_is3exfn wrote
You're confusing "biological" with "natural." For an intelligence to be naturally occuring it would have to emerge independent of intentional design.
Regardless of it's makeup, our design and build automatically implies an artificial construct.
Sashinii t1_is1ohbm wrote
I'll use AI to play Japanese adventure games to find out which romance routes it chooses first.
Desperate_Donut8582 t1_is1uvra wrote
If I become president I’ll ban anime so better hope I don’t
Sashinii t1_is1w8xt wrote
Anime is too powerful to ban. The citizens would leave the nation where you're the president and form their own nation of otaku in which democracy reigns supreme.
FourthmasWish t1_is4f4uu wrote
A mangakacy, where the leading manga's author decides policy. Brings a tear to me eye, it does.
iAmMonkee- t1_is2cl6l wrote
found the nutaku player
Sashinii t1_is2xnyg wrote
I love Japanese adventure games, but Nutaku is an absymal store filled to the brim with shovelware; I buy said games on DL Site, Jast, MangaGamer, Yahoo Auctions, I'd buy them from DMM if they started taking foreign payment again, etc.
iAmMonkee- t1_is2xsd1 wrote
i’m just gonna nod my head and act like i know what that stuff is 😂
TheHamsterSandwich t1_is1y7xn wrote
Wh... what?
Shelfrock77 t1_is265fl wrote
The brain dreams after death: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRuWUePF/
Brain cells playing pong: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRuWVoQw/
What do neurons know: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRuWDJ3W/
Forgive me for my sins for posting 3 tiktok’s in one comment pls
There are lots of brain discoveries I see on tiktok surprisingly, maybe it’s just my personal algorithm though
Longjumping_Kale1 t1_is2w7jm wrote
Kind of weird you need to apologize for links to social media on social media. Platform elitism is for dumb people.
koherenssi t1_is2k7gu wrote
Well this is cool stuff
KeepItASecretok t1_is3a8fm wrote
Idk I feel like this is screwed up and unethical.
I like a lot of tech, but I would prefer to continue using digital neurons, we don't exactly know where consciousness ends and begins, if it really is experiencing something that could be considered as such.
enkae7317 t1_is4kd0v wrote
We going full circle boys!
ShadowPooper t1_is5kof3 wrote
I hope that someday there will be actual brain cells posting to reddit.
mathtech t1_is684i8 wrote
So im starting to think that AGI will be biocomputers. The first sapient robots will have brains with lab grown neurons. This will also teach us about how conciousness forms within our own brains.
WashiBurr t1_is4p5ub wrote
Hmm. As interesting as this is, it seems almost unethical.
manosaur t1_is51c20 wrote
They should move up the Atari ladder and play all the classics. Pitfall next!
SnooDonkeys5480 t1_isha8zy wrote
I'm imagining a dystopian scenario where a company develops an AGI home assistant robot powered by a lab grown human brain.
Professional-Noise80 t1_it6zsr9 wrote
"exhibit sentience" ? How does it do that ?
petermobeter t1_is1rshn wrote
OMG a petri dish of mammalian neurons learned to play Pong???????? i wonder what it felt like 🥺