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subdep t1_is43l8g wrote

By your logic though, we could categorize most humans who use smartphones with social media as artificial since they are processing data and information in a way manipulated by scientists conducting experiments in order to shape the results.

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ChronoPsyche t1_is4xp9l wrote

What? That makes no sense. Humans using smart phone with social media is not intelligence at all or any discrete phenomena being studied in a lab. Nobody is claiming that humans using smartphones with social media is artificial or natural. That's not even a useful descriptor for such a general set of activities as such.

The data being processed is also not manipulated by scientists conducting experiments. What scientist is conducting an experiment on the set of all humans using smartphones? You totally are confused here.

My logic would say that the smart phones themselves are artifical, because they were developed by humans. Likewise, if intelligence arises from an artificial process, then that intelligence is artifical. For something to be natural, it has to have arisen from a natural process.

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ChronoPsyche t1_is5jnfk wrote

Your extrapolating erroneously. My statement was specifically about creating intelligence. Not every experiment is about creating something and the question of artifical vs natural is not something that applies to the situation you are referring to.

Also, social media itself is not an experiment. The existence of an experiment within the context of social media does not mean that the entire social media paradigm is some experiment in a lab.

Instead of doing "whataboutism" why don't you explain why my logic is faulty. If a process is created though artifical means, how is it not artificial? Artifical refers to the intelligence, not the substrate.

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