Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

Purple_Passion000 t1_j4m6ynw wrote

Twitter more civil than YouTube?

102

tornpentacle t1_j4mbs1r wrote

You must not have spent much time in the comments section on YouTube. It's way worse than anything I've seen on Twitter. Although I haven't used Twitter since the recent changes, so idk how it is now.

69

politicaltrashfire t1_j4ncqir wrote

I'd argue that this reflects a dated perspective of YouTube. It's becoming clear that they've put significant effort into hiding comments with negative sentiment. From my perspective YouTube is now closer to being a place full of generic positivity than a dumpsterfire.

54

WOTDisLanguish t1_j4opb84 wrote

There's two places I've learned never to check the comments section in:

  • anything you'd see on a news channel, and
  • anything LGBT that isn't in an exclusively LGBT space

I don't know if it's just me but I've seen the worst takes I've ever seen on any social media platform there with surprising consistency and I'm pretty active online.

20

Deracination t1_j4pxi8z wrote

I'd expand that to just anything LGBT. The exclusively LGBT spaces tend to turn into toxic cesspools of racism and misandry. They are...very exclusive, definitely not inclusive. The Newspeak runs rampant, and anything they don't like just gets reduced to a "bad take".

3

WOTDisLanguish t1_j4q4ln3 wrote

Deracination I'll assume you're not acting in bad faith.

LGBT spaces aren't tolerating people who believe harassing them is an alright alternative to listening to them. If they're joining said spaces just to claim that marriage exclusively exists between a man and a woman without seeking to open a dialogue it's just harassment.

The anti-white racism, and misandry is more of a extreme left thing where they go into the realm of over correcting just to commit the same issues they were looking to fix. It exists, and I'll admit that, but LGBT spaces aren't the ones committing, or endorsing it.

7

Deracination t1_j4qgzdh wrote

I'm not trying to troll here, no.

I think you're right about it being mainly a far-left thing. The problem is it being exclusively an LGBT space. That sort of attitude built into a forum leads to an echo chamber gradually developing, and that sort of structure will radicalize over time. I believe it leads to exclusively LGBT spaces tending towards discrimination over time, not because of the LGBT, but because of the exclusivity.

The same thing happens in all sorts of forums. Misandry and anti-white racism are just the forms the most common ideas of the left take when meme theory radicalizes them, and LGBT people tend towards the left for obvious reasons.

3

WOTDisLanguish t1_j4ql5ee wrote

I agree with you there, something about stagnant water being dangerous. The best most people can do is ignore, or actively push against the radicals of any group. I'm kind of glad there's this open dialogue here, thanks for that

When I was using exclusive I meant the channels uploads being consistent with LGBT issues, they rarely upload so they don't keep their fanbases entrenched in the same ideologies so maybe that's why I'm seeing less far-left "conversations" about anti-white racism and misandry

2

Isocratia t1_j4o00xy wrote

At some point in 2019, Youtube deleted 500 million comments for hate speech.

12

katarh t1_j4q3dco wrote

You and I must not be on the same part of YouTube.

Big YouTube channels have 24/7 content moderators who keep them pretty clean, but some of the smaller channels where it's just the owner can quickly devolve into food fights while the host is asleep.

2

FlatulentWallaby t1_j4mo68p wrote

YouTube is a disgusting cesspool of racists, misogynistic fuckwads and just pure hate. Nothing is done about it.

21

could_use_a_snack t1_j4oa1xc wrote

What channels are you watching? Because that's not my experience.

29

snotrockit1 t1_j4pyuyg wrote

I have had a wonderful experience with YouTube. I do not comment/read comments, unless it is a tutorial video, then only to assess its accuracy.

4

basshead17 t1_j4mv6a8 wrote

It depends on which videos you watch I guess

17

FlatulentWallaby t1_j4mwdu2 wrote

Nope. Doesn't matter if it's a kids video or a science channel. There's always horrible people in the comments. That's why comments were disabled on kids videos.

0

marypoppindatpussy t1_j4ny06b wrote

i watch usually like educational or crafty/diy type of videos and all the comments are wholesome and positive. i once made the mistake of looking at a news video on youtube and saw the types of comments you're talking about. so the type of video does seem to matter.

23

FlatulentWallaby t1_j4ny8hb wrote

It's not a matter of the subject. It's a matter of the amount of views. The most controversial subject with little to no views won't have the comments. But even the most innocent video with a million views will have the comments.

−6

GlandyThunderbundle t1_j4o58sa wrote

So then it does matter the type of videos you watch—maybe not topic, but view count. I’m good staying in lower number stuff. My experiences have generally been very positive.

8

P3verall t1_j4ol9uq wrote

YouTube hides and deletes rude comments. I had like 30 disappear from the section of one of my videos and they weren’t even cursing in any way.

2

IknowKarazy t1_j4mfh6h wrote

Twitter has idiots, youtube has idiots who try to read as little as possible to keep their brains from overheating. All comments are typed with a single finger.

3

Sunstaff t1_j4pfltu wrote

The same applies to any platform, the question is just where?

2

17th_Angel t1_j4owemx wrote

Comments can get visious, but no one cares on YouTube, except maybe the youtuber.

2

Excaliboss t1_j4pynhl wrote

Im more confused they are calling youtube a social media platform. Compared to the others it doesnt seem to fit.

1

Isocratia t1_j4qreih wrote

If you look at the graph in the article, it's two-dimensional. They plot the sites in terms of perceived incivility of others / perceived incivility of oneself.

Youtube is at the top for perceived incivility of others. It's low on perceived incivility of oneself.

This makes sense if you're just going there to watch some videos and not post comments at all, but scroll down and see some keklord ranting in the comments for some completely apolitical video.

The whole graph is rather interesting.

1