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politicaltrashfire t1_j4ncqir wrote

Reply to comment by tornpentacle in Among social media users, YouTube was considered to be the least civil, followed by Facebook. Twitter and TikTok ranked in the middle. Reddit and Instagram were considered the most civil. (N = 1,105; N = 1,035) by RepleteDivide

I'd argue that this reflects a dated perspective of YouTube. It's becoming clear that they've put significant effort into hiding comments with negative sentiment. From my perspective YouTube is now closer to being a place full of generic positivity than a dumpsterfire.

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WOTDisLanguish t1_j4opb84 wrote

There's two places I've learned never to check the comments section in:

  • anything you'd see on a news channel, and
  • anything LGBT that isn't in an exclusively LGBT space

I don't know if it's just me but I've seen the worst takes I've ever seen on any social media platform there with surprising consistency and I'm pretty active online.

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Deracination t1_j4pxi8z wrote

I'd expand that to just anything LGBT. The exclusively LGBT spaces tend to turn into toxic cesspools of racism and misandry. They are...very exclusive, definitely not inclusive. The Newspeak runs rampant, and anything they don't like just gets reduced to a "bad take".

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WOTDisLanguish t1_j4q4ln3 wrote

Deracination I'll assume you're not acting in bad faith.

LGBT spaces aren't tolerating people who believe harassing them is an alright alternative to listening to them. If they're joining said spaces just to claim that marriage exclusively exists between a man and a woman without seeking to open a dialogue it's just harassment.

The anti-white racism, and misandry is more of a extreme left thing where they go into the realm of over correcting just to commit the same issues they were looking to fix. It exists, and I'll admit that, but LGBT spaces aren't the ones committing, or endorsing it.

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Deracination t1_j4qgzdh wrote

I'm not trying to troll here, no.

I think you're right about it being mainly a far-left thing. The problem is it being exclusively an LGBT space. That sort of attitude built into a forum leads to an echo chamber gradually developing, and that sort of structure will radicalize over time. I believe it leads to exclusively LGBT spaces tending towards discrimination over time, not because of the LGBT, but because of the exclusivity.

The same thing happens in all sorts of forums. Misandry and anti-white racism are just the forms the most common ideas of the left take when meme theory radicalizes them, and LGBT people tend towards the left for obvious reasons.

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WOTDisLanguish t1_j4ql5ee wrote

I agree with you there, something about stagnant water being dangerous. The best most people can do is ignore, or actively push against the radicals of any group. I'm kind of glad there's this open dialogue here, thanks for that

When I was using exclusive I meant the channels uploads being consistent with LGBT issues, they rarely upload so they don't keep their fanbases entrenched in the same ideologies so maybe that's why I'm seeing less far-left "conversations" about anti-white racism and misandry

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Isocratia t1_j4o00xy wrote

At some point in 2019, Youtube deleted 500 million comments for hate speech.

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katarh t1_j4q3dco wrote

You and I must not be on the same part of YouTube.

Big YouTube channels have 24/7 content moderators who keep them pretty clean, but some of the smaller channels where it's just the owner can quickly devolve into food fights while the host is asleep.

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