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[deleted] t1_itza06l wrote

It's possible at your home it hasn't happened yet but the NWS has officially ended the growing season

https://twitter.com/NWSPittsburgh/status/1583086138935214080?t=f47JFQT03MFkcIQpnh1Tgw&s=19

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PolyDipsoManiac t1_itzclpl wrote

I definitely thought it had reached freezing last Thursday, if only briefly.

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James19991 t1_itzcy35 wrote

Technically it didn't at Pittsburgh International, where Pittsburgh's official weather observations are taken, but it's entirely possible it did at your location. You can still have frost too even if it doesn't hit freezing of course.

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Yeuph t1_itziw47 wrote

How does that work? Frost without freezing?

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James19991 t1_itzkvvh wrote

Official temperatures are measured 6 ft above the ground or so, and cold air sinks, so if it's 33 or 34 above the ground, it's totally possible for it to be 32 or 31 at ground level in certain areas.

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LordApocalyptica t1_iu05jdn wrote

Also the heat exchange mechanism of phase change means that at a micro environmental level you can have phenomena like frost happening even if the ambient temp is slightly higher

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KentuckYSnow t1_itzkw4b wrote

Temps at ground level can be a few degrees colder than just a few feet higher and dip below 32, at which point the vapor in the air can freeze.

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babyyodaisamazing98 OP t1_itzks3d wrote

That’s strange. The lowest temp a can find for Pittsburgh was a brief hour long dip to 33. I don’t see anything at 32.

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[deleted] t1_itzldwr wrote

Frost can kill plants off before it goes below 32.

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Elouiseotter t1_itzmjld wrote

It also depends on where the temperature was taken in Pittsburgh. For example Lawrenceville with all the buildings and little open space tends to be hotter than Allegheny Cemetery that is mostly green space.

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booksgamesandstuff t1_iu0d4ov wrote

I’m just a few miles away from the airport and all of my flowers perished from frost the same night last week. I’m in a valley and I’m sure houses at the top of our hill may still have some left. It’s not always a blanket…temperature varies.

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covertchipmunk t1_iu2hlq7 wrote

Microclimate! The one in my yard generally works in my favor. It tends to stay a bit warmer based on landscape features and location. So far my roses, dahlias, zinnias, and cosmos are still going. The plants in a less protected spot have started to die off. Sorry your flowers are done. Time to start planning next year....

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booksgamesandstuff t1_iu2kbp2 wrote

I've had geraniums out in the open in front of my house since early May, and they're still blooming. The only ones left as of now and they really don't compliment the pumpkins out there... ;D

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regulartimer t1_iu2rw9d wrote

My zinnias and cosmos were the last two left. They were still budding, but this past weekend, I put them out of their misery. I figured I’d end their season in a vase, to hang on to the last shred of summer.

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mpp827 t1_iu2i21f wrote

>https://twitter.com/NWSPittsburgh/status/1583086138935214080?t=f47JFQT03MFkcIQpnh1Tgw&s=19

So that means they won't issue frost/freeze warnings anymore?
Good to know that because I have been relying on it for my garden.

Still kicking in the south hills. Picked tons of dahlias this week, again.

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CL-MotoTech t1_itzogk1 wrote

If I have to mow my fucking lawn again I might just burn the house and walk away from it all. My grass has never been healthier and thicker and this weather just keeps pumping. Meanwhile I have to work on my piece of shit lawnmower for 20 minutes every time I mow. I am over it. It is basically November, get cold already.

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Elouiseotter t1_itzq6mw wrote

I’ll take a lower heating bill over having to mow a lawn any day.

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Aleph_Rat t1_itzxcto wrote

You need to look into clover my man.

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EllaMinnow t1_iu1786i wrote

Best decision we ever made. Grass/clover mix is the way to go since we live in a colder climate. I mowed my lawn once at the start of the season to kind of "activate" the clover for spring and it was magnificent all summer long. We had huge happy bunnies back there every day. Do it.

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Aleph_Rat t1_iu19d7x wrote

Did you go through anyone in particular to do it? When I get a house here (hopefully soon but given the interest rates idk) I'm wanting to get it done.

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EllaMinnow t1_iu1k063 wrote

Nope, we did it ourselves and tbh we kinda winged it just with supplies from Lowe's. Aerated the lawn, overseeded it with the clover mix, and watered the hell out of it every day for a few weeks. It took great and looks wonderful. We have a neighbor who did the same thing at the same time and didn't have as much luck and had to re-seed last March but it came together by May.

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immigrantpatriot t1_iu1q05h wrote

I didn't even do that much, just literally threw the clover seeds down & then watered a bit to keep them from blowing away. Clover stays beautifully green, is soft & springy, doesn't need mowing & one of my favorite things: on summers evenings I could sit on the front porch during the golden hour & watch the bumblebees goes nuts all over it. You can make a beautiful yard with clover, native wildflowers & non invasive perennials!

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covertchipmunk t1_iu2i2av wrote

This is our strategy. I just scratch the seeds in and water once and then leave it to its own devices. It also spreads on its own so it's filled in spots. My yard is full of all kinds of bees. On Tuesday there were so many out in the warm sun visiting the asters and my other flowers.

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James19991 t1_itzc4bl wrote

It's kind of crazy we haven't had that first freeze yet considering up until this past weekend, October had been well below normal. The coldest it's been for Pittsburgh this month officially is 33.

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cowboyjosh2010 t1_iu03kv8 wrote

Wild, right? We have definitely had a seasonably cool fall, with only a few warm--and no truly "hot"--days in there to constitute an "Indian Summer", and yet the temps never got down to a true freezing point. Very fine line we're riding with this weather.

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James19991 t1_iu073k6 wrote

This has definitely been one of the, if not the most consistently fall like falls I can remember. Most Octobers we are good for a day or two where it gets to near 80, but once we had that last day in the 80s 5 weeks ago, that was it.

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EnjoiThePureTrip t1_itzfage wrote

The coldest it’s been in Pittsburgh in October is 16 degrees Fahrenheit. Not sure where you’re getting 33. It often used to snow in October.

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James19991 t1_itzffag wrote

The coldest it has been in October 2022 in Pittsburgh is 33°. I thought that it would have been clear I meant just this October, but apparently not.

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hypotenoos t1_itzac7o wrote

Snowed at my house last week. The farmers almanac had the first light freeze set for 10/21 with a 30% probability before. So it seems wee are still right about where expected.

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lefindecheri t1_iu06do6 wrote

Where do you live that got snow?

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hypotenoos t1_iu06k29 wrote

Butler County- from about halfway up the county and north got snow. Mercer Co got quite a bit

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ballsonthewall t1_itzejmv wrote

not that the rest of your information is incorrect but Farmers Almanac is pure bullshit

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hypotenoos t1_itzeq4n wrote

It’s an estimate of the first frost based on past years. It’s hardly witchcraft.

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OllieFromCairo t1_itzr2c1 wrote

It is, in fact, almost entirely bullshit.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a16962/farmers-almanac-winter-predictions/

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hypotenoos t1_itzra3t wrote

Again, it’s the first frost not the prediction of months’ worth of weather…

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OllieFromCairo t1_itzqvug wrote

Don’t you hate getting downvoted for being right?

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capchaos t1_itzwa5y wrote

I'll be that guy. You want to know what's correct? First freeze of the year was in January.

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ballsonthewall t1_itzrsv2 wrote

it happens sometimes, weather is mostly a mystery to many folks so I understand

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PamZero t1_itzl7zd wrote

Def had ice on my vehicle last week when I went to work and I forgot to take a few plants in so they are not looking so good now.

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buymegoats t1_itzl47d wrote

Hello fellow pgh pepperer! I’ve had numerous pepper plants die so far from cold but some are still hanging on

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Whiplash_666 t1_itzs5jj wrote

My peppers are fighting like champs and still growing Jalapeños and ghost. I covered for a night or two a week or so ago during that freeze advisory but thats it. It’s my first time growing them, I’m impressed

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BorderlinePaisley t1_itzqt28 wrote

My pepper plants (Hungarian hot) are also still going strong! I plan on doing a final harvest sometime soon. Definitely the latest one I’ve done.

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babyyodaisamazing98 OP t1_iu0hbbz wrote

It’s interesting. Looks like south of the city had a hard freeze, and Mercer county and further north had a hard freeze, but from the city up to cranberry has stayed above freezing.

I’m east of cranberry and the lowest I’ve recorded here is 34 for one night and no frost yet.

Lots of small regional differences.

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mpp827 t1_iu2i63y wrote

I am in Castle Shannon and my plants didn't freeze though we did have some frost on the grass one morning.

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mr_pgh t1_itzu6t8 wrote

I picked about 2 dozen green peppers last Thursday when it was scheduled to get down to 33; ended up not frosting in my neck of the woods though.

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jumpyg1258 t1_iu0t1nt wrote

When I was a kid growing up in Pittsburgh, it was typically snowing by Halloween.

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sonofcrack t1_iu01pt9 wrote

2 days last week my car was frozen over so I’m guessing no.

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Lazy-Associate-4508 t1_iu08ns6 wrote

I work in the south hills and last week we had a hard frost. It killed all of my annuals. As well as a lot of perennials (the above the ground part.)

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turp101 t1_iu1yvm4 wrote

My peppers are fine, and the trellised tomatoes hanging on, but cukes, squash, and anything of that type froze last week. It probably depends on your microclimate if you got hit by that one cold evening.

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mpp827 t1_iu2iep2 wrote

I am hoping for Thanksgiving flowers this year. :)
Peppers actually like it when the weather cools down a bit!
Other things are toast by now, but I can't believe how productive my gardens still are in late October. Last year I think the frost came Nov 2 and THAT seemed late!

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Kingjerm731 t1_iu028uw wrote

I had to use my ice scraper to clean my car windows two weeks ago. Solid ice. I think we already froze.

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ClammyHandedFreak t1_iu07qry wrote

Yeah we hit freezing here locally with that first dip in temp we had. Not quite gotten to freezing since, but we had light snow for a couple hours and everything.

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santas_little_halper t1_iu0gefu wrote

Also a pepper grower; my Faria, Bhonda ma Jacques, and bahamian goat (potted, outdoors) are still clinging onto life, I can't bring them inside so just going to let them run their course.

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nud3doll t1_iu0v7js wrote

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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lemma_qed t1_iu2ezhr wrote

I just harvested the last of my jalapenos because I wanted to get them before they froze. Now I have a nice stash of jalapenos in my fridge. 🌶️

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jawngoodman t1_itzdfgc wrote

global warming LFG

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James19991 t1_itzetxg wrote

Through yesterday, the average temperature this month in Pittsburgh has actually been a little over 3 degrees below normal. Just because it hasn't been below a certain temperature doesn't mean it's been a warm fall.

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tzeriel t1_itzl9id wrote

These clowns can’t wait to interject their propaganda into every post though.

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James19991 t1_itzlw82 wrote

I mean, human influenced climate change is clearly a real thing, but that's not why it didn't get below freezing when it was pretty cold last week. It was too cloudy at night for the temperature to drop much.

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tzeriel t1_itzmzy2 wrote

Don’t come in here with your science!

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