Submitted by randoyinzer t3_11cgard in pittsburgh
glenn_q t1_ja2x9vu wrote
"Sports Business Journal reported the Pirates deal in Pittsburgh as one that is especially advantageous to the team, bringing in an average of $60 million per year from its local media deal."
Especially advantageous? Of course it is. Fuck Nutting. If the Penguins weren't on the same channel I would have cut the cord long ago.
My wish is that when this situation is sorted out I'll be able to drop the Pirates channel and keep the Pens channel. Or at LEAST that it has some negative impact on Nutting.
UnaffiliatedOpinion t1_ja2zjr2 wrote
I would love to see the RSNs collapse so we can finally get a proper streaming solution without blackouts. If it was only our local RSN, maybe it would be too much to ask. But I see the article mentions that Bally Sports is also considering bankruptcy.
Put it all on ESPN+ or NHLTV with no blackouts and I'll drop my Fubo subscription and subscribe to the new service in a heartbeat.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_ja3pgmk wrote
The massive payroll and valuation bubble in the MLB over the past fifteen years has been fueled by RSN fees being paid by cable subscribers, most of whom don't even care about sports but have to pay the fees anyway to get the cable package they want.
MLB has essentially been making money off every paying cable subscriber in America whether they watch baseball or not. The bubble was due to pop eventually.
filetofeedback t1_ja3aldn wrote
The RSNs are collapsing slowly. Diamond Bally’s just missed an interest payment and about to declare bankruptcy.
Aggravating_Foot_528 t1_ja47ecz wrote
what's amazing is that they've been subsidized by all cable subscribers for 30-40 years...
Corny_Toot t1_ja301vz wrote
I hope they at least get picked up by someone willing to do a deal with more of the streaming tv providers.
The comments in that article make it seem like they're behind the times internally too.
PedroAlvarez t1_ja32452 wrote
Fubo should be interested considering that's their whole thing.
Bucs-and-Bucks t1_ja39d77 wrote
Fwiw, I the the Pirates revenue from their RSN is on the low end among MLB teams. Nutting is terrible and I despise him, but, if anything, I think his failure here is not getting more.
Pensfan66595 t1_ja3hhgl wrote
Apparently the Pens make more than the Pirates.
Brak710 t1_ja3inzd wrote
Sure, but they also lead the US in local ratings. The Penguins are the team an RSN wishes they had.
The pirates don’t nearly the draw the same viewers plus they have a likely more expensive production (simply because there are double the number of games.)
Impossible-Bit-5304 t1_ja4osbh wrote
The Pirates regularly have more viewers per game than the Penguins.
Brak710 t1_ja5cdn7 wrote
Do you have a source on that? From what I see online it’s not even remotely close.
Impossible-Bit-5304 t1_ja5dy63 wrote
You can Google articles online. Pirates broadcasts are typically either right at where the Penguins are, or higher.
Maybe not last years but typically over the past 15 years it’s either very close or Pirates are higher.
Brak710 t1_ja5etej wrote
I’ve googled this and can find absolutely nothing that confirms your anecdote.
Please provide the sources.
Impossible-Bit-5304 t1_ja5ewm7 wrote
Sports Business Journal and Forbes has articles every year.
Brak710 t1_ja5fnpv wrote
Provide the source links.
But I know you can’t find it because there isn’t any.
Impossible-Bit-5304 t1_ja5fv9z wrote
If you don’t know how to properly use search engines to find articles telling you what sports teams local tv ratings were in any given year, you’re beyond help, and you won’t believe it anyway, you seem dead set on believing the Pens are some huge draw just because they lead the NHL. It’s all relative.
Brak710 t1_ja5ggw2 wrote
Pirates ~40,000 per game avg.
That’s it. That’s near half of what the Penguins get.
Impossible-Bit-5304 t1_ja5h49p wrote
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2015/04/20/Media/NHL-RSNs.aspx
In 2015, Pirates were much higher. It’s typically more even, or Pirates higher.
Brak710 t1_ja5hgm4 wrote
2015 lol
The pirates should hire you when they’re trying to sell this shit team’s broadcast rights to next RSN.
Impossible-Bit-5304 t1_ja5hwvu wrote
2015 is just as relevant as Covid year 2020 when the entire season was delayed months, leading to serious disinterest across the entire sport.
BlimeyFish t1_jabnrc3 wrote
I have also seen these articles and the Pirates regularly out rate the Penguins. But I'm also not searching for the articles and giving you links because you don't know how to use the google machine. Do your own work.
Brak710 t1_jacijw4 wrote
We cannot find them. Try searching for them and you’ll see the issue. You’re asking me to prove a negative.
The first guy here had to settle for a 2015 article.
apitbullnamedzeus t1_jacoj8v wrote
Making a claim and telling someone else to do your homework for you is lazy bullshit.
Rellimie t1_ja61pdf wrote
I don’t doubt this could be true. Hockey is like the 5th or 6th most popular professional sport in the US. Baseball is 2nd or 3rd.
It’s not close either, hockey is so far down the popularity list it’s funny.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_ja8ce84 wrote
The NHL is the entire world's fifth highest revenue sports league.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue
You have an odd definition of "so far down the popularity list".
Rellimie t1_jab51d0 wrote
As I said, the US, not the world.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jabc4u7 wrote
It's the 4th highest revenue league in the US.
The US is a part of the world, surprisingly enough.
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