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poopfeast t1_ix7mdyy wrote

It’s unreal that they dug this out and just left it. It’s been what, a week now? This whole neighborhood between 30th, girard, poplar, etc is a fucking nightmare right now

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Phl_worldwide t1_ix7q9my wrote

This year, they did this every where. From south Philly to literally the center of center city, they dug shit up and left it there for like a month before finishing. Truly a terrible way of doing things. The Streets dept needs a very serious criminal investigation into its actions

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MomsSpecialFriend t1_ix876ht wrote

This is becoming a thing. Penn Dot is being sued for leaving a street dug up and it killed a motorcyclist despite many complaints and accidents already. I live outside of Philly and they leave roadwork incomplete for months at a time, and UGI digs up the street over and over again whenever they would like instead of doing any real repairs. They put up signs for no parking the whole week and they may or may not even appear. It’s way out of control and there is no care for the human beings interacting with their projects.

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Imprettystrong t1_ix9hqut wrote

This is America. Getting things done as cheaply and shittily as possible.

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rootoo t1_ixb248m wrote

No other major city in the US does this like this.

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Hashslingingslashar t1_ixah1gu wrote

There have been more things getting done lately at least though. Growing pains I guess.

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FlyByPC t1_ix8wqi2 wrote

Thirty years ago, I spent a month in France as a summer exchange student. While I was there, they repaved the road in front of the house where I was staying. Crew and machines proceeded down the road at roughly a slow walk, paving as they went. An hour or so later, they came back the other way and did that lane. People went around them as they worked -- without even closing the road.

Never seen anything like it over here.

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WisejacKFr0st t1_ix8ja3c wrote

We have had a sinkhole growing through our sidewalk for the last month or so. We reported it when it was just a few bricks sinking down and now it stretches 5 houses. We’ve put in 3 tickets but due to other work on our road (resurfacing and gas line work) all the tickets keep getting marked as resolved, when all the road work equipment is making the hole worse!

It’s crazy the incompetence surrounding their own web ticket system, I can’t imagine how day to day management is.

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poopfeast t1_ix83c4c wrote

Funny enough they did this on my block as well, dug a big patch out and left it for a day. Repaired the hole the next day, but never actually fixed or did any work.

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inconspicuous_male t1_ix8l1zo wrote

I was going to complain to 311 about a ditch that some workers keep digging up and leaving uncovered on 47th for most of the past year. Didn't realize how big and widespread the problem actually is

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gatitosforever t1_ix8v3qj wrote

ya south philly was a nightmare for a while, dug it all up and left it for weeks

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iProduceCode t1_ixaqt2s wrote

Agreed. My car is fucked from these roads, I've been knocked off my bike because they left a 1ft deep hole across the entire road and bike lane, and it was deeper than it looked. On top of this, I ride in the bike lanes and there's randomly piles of cement almost 2x-3x higher than a speed bump across the bike lanes from times that they had to dig into the ground, and decided to just put a pile of cement on it to "fix" it. they don't even flatten it

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Sage2050 t1_ix8skrp wrote

Ridge ave in east falls was worse than this in the spring. then the paved it (poorly) to cover the holes, then repaved it in full a month later

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ThaddyG t1_ixauczc wrote

Oof yeah that was bad but I don't think it was worse than this pic

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tylerthez t1_ix7p2wf wrote

Turn left off this street and that’s my block. It’s been an absolute nightmare. Not only has this street been closed on and off (blocking the only entrance to our street), Girard is now closed at 30th for thru access. My side street has become a superhighway for Girard traffic and this work you see here has been ongoing for months. Since there is no way thru on Girard, the road closed sign has been tossed aside and cars have just been damaging this ongoing “work”.

This is added to the half-finished crosswalks and pedestrian lights at 31st & Girard at the ALDI entrance. There are THREE independent construction projects happening in the same 3 block radius. It’s madness.

Commuting around this area of Brewerytown has been truly awful for the past month plus and I don’t see it improving anytime soon.

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dskatz2 t1_ixbifry wrote

Email Darrell Clark's office. I'm at 30th and Oxford and they had 30th between Jefferson and Oxford closed for multiple months. After I emailed them, construction resumed and it was done within two weeks.

Curtis Wilkerson is the person I spoke to. Extremely helpful.

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H00die5zn t1_ixcygfc wrote

We have one of the inspector's names who we have been contacting and we just found out that on our block, after the street has been dug up since April, that they have no plans to repave the whole thing and instead are going to patchwork it which is INSANE. Darrell Clark doesn't gaf about this district

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Fattom23 t1_ix837qa wrote

Cabot St, eh? I used to live there, too and I can't imagine how you folks managed.

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oscarzeecockapoo t1_ix84iz3 wrote

They’ve been fucking up the streets in that immediate area for close to a year now. Poplar is a mess - cars are swerving left and right to avoid holes, and if you’re a cyclist, staying on the edge of the road is downright dangerous since it’s so messed up.

The sidewalks are messed up too, with the decent sidewalk concrete being replaced by ugly road material.

On top of that, when they do do street construction, they’ve stopped putting up “No Parking - construction from X date to X date” signs. So your car will randomly get courtesy towed now. Not a big deal - unless you get improperly towed from let’s say, having an all wheel drive car.

So they fuck up the streets, make you feel even more unsafe as a pedestrian, ruin the sidewalks, fuck up your car from random tows (which you’ll have no chance of fighting and winning against the tow companies), and there’s no clear path to how this is all gonna get fixed.

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Hib3rnian t1_ix7xnly wrote

The inefficiency and poor craftsmanship is astounding.

Why remove top layers rough edges straight down one side and then section out on the other side only to go back and clean cut the edges for rough edges removal? Just rough clear the full width and then do the cleanup work. It'll fill faster, smooth easier and last longer.

Gotta work smarter, not harder and take some pride in your accomplishments.

But I guess efficiency would put OT into jeopardy right before the holidays...

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Trailmix88 t1_ix91pdi wrote

The contractor only gets paid for the restoration of the trench that was excavated. Stone and concrete base in the trench. Then they will cut back for asphalt so the overlap happens at the layer where water infiltration is most likely to occur. Ends with tar sealant between old and new asphalt. However, I'll be shocked and amazed if this can get completed in 2022 without a letter allowing the contractor to not be liable for warranty of the asphalt. It is too cold for asphalt plants to be open.

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iamalsoanalien t1_ixamczb wrote

100% agree. Terrible time to replace asphalt right now due to cold temps. Asphalt plants open during the day only so contractors cant get any at night when the do some of their work. The concrete they put in is supposed to be to the top of the trench so they can mill it down when they come back with the top coat of asphalt.

The trench this contractor dug in OP's image is probably for water or gas. The contractor is likely responsible to mill the lane they worked thru and either ran out of time or money.

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Trailmix88 t1_ixan8eu wrote

It's prob water and very, very likely only paid to restore the trench (no milling will be done in this case). Gas is usually a thinner trench (more shallow depth requirements) and sewer usually requires full width restoration. They will do cut backs and hope for temps above 50 to wrap it up before asphalt plants close for the season.

Anyone see any markings on the barrels as to who did the work? PCI? Nello? Meco? CCI?

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LayerCakeX t1_ix7rzqu wrote

This is representative of the overall workmanship and attitude towards finishing a job in Philly. I love this city but of all the major cities I’ve lived (3), it’s the only one that simply could care less about finishing a job and improving/restoring a neighborhood.

There is an overall attitude across the city that simply showing up at work earns the paycheck. Doing your job would be deemed “above and beyond”. Until there is more accountability in public works, amongst other things, it’s hard to envision the city taking a big step forward.

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a-german-muffin t1_ix85abm wrote

Nah, this is representative of three different contractors working on one project and having frigid weather hit early. When it warms into the 50s later this week, they can actually put down the asphalt on top of that concrete; otherwise, best they can do is some shitty cold patch that'll get obliterated three weeks into freeze/thaw season.

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H00die5zn t1_ix8bkn4 wrote

I’d say you are partly correct, however, there were almost 2 straight weeks a bit ago where it was 60+ degrees with no work being done. We all know November/December is coming and temps can dip so when these roads have been dug up for 6 months, this looks like god awful planning

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a-german-muffin t1_ix8fec6 wrote

Eh, little column A, little column B. Coordination could've definitely been better, but this is the same kind of thing that happened a year or two ago in East Falls - and this might've been a longer run of main that had to get replaced, really. Shit's complicated, stuff happens - not to say it isn't aggravating, but the day a major public works project goes exactly to plan is probably the day we finally get pigs airborne.

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Yolo_420_69 t1_ix8j13b wrote

Philly is one of the few cities where if you buy the offroad package of your vehicle it actually makes sense

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Alexlam24 t1_ix9vi2q wrote

Literally anything lower than a midsize SUV would need repairs. My car would definitely beach itself 2 seconds into this.

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Forever_tired215 t1_ix7ng0k wrote

You’re car is definitely getting sideswiped if you park there.

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iadas t1_ix8eixa wrote

I read that cities have to cover up any dick pic, and some town started spray painting roads like that to speed up the process. I mean at this point might as well try…

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H00die5zn t1_ix7tsq9 wrote

The entire neighborhood has been a shitshow for a while. Our block has been dug up since APRIL and I feel for everyone because I know we aren’t alone and the streets look like OP’s

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meateatr t1_ix851o4 wrote

This is the type of content I sub for

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69_420_bonerjamz t1_ix8fvof wrote

The City of Philadelphia is Rick James and our cars are the couches

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ACY0422 t1_ix8nq1t wrote

I love how Girard is shut down at 27th we no detour signs. Spent about 15 minutes wandering through area north trying to get back to Girard. I would had gone down Poplar if there were detours posted. Does the City no longer require construction safety protocols?

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Meatek t1_ix8oh9c wrote

I walked down this road when I was picking up dinner last night. The noises those poor cars were making lol. I was walking faster than they were driving.

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DatesNDollas t1_ix7x0rq wrote

Urban speed bumps. Construction everywhere around there. Avoid driving through that area at all costs. Fairmount to the zoo/76 took 45 minutes. There’s a side alley close to there that was dug up then filled in but whoever did it really didn’t care. Like totally uneven and more than 5 mph and you’re losing you muffler. I thought it was temporary but it’s been like that a month +.

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thecw t1_ix8lavm wrote

Graduate Hospital still hasn't had the crosswalks repainted on paved roads, at major intersections like the South St. Bridge.

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FlyByPC t1_ix8wfr0 wrote

I bet if somebody spray-painted obscenities on it, it would get fixed.

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PM_Me_Your_WorkFiles t1_ix93gus wrote

What can we actually do about this? The neighborhood has been torn to shit for months, with no sign of anything getting better before the snow. Cars are getting damaged left and right, there’s no safe way to bike, and the businesses are getting fewer customers. PGW, septa, and streets department are unforgivable on this one. Tearing streets to hell with zero fucks given. Not to mention starting at 6 AM, towing cars before their signs even say that parking is forbidden, and calling it a day at 1 PM.

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Snakealicious t1_ix82oj1 wrote

HA! Yeah, I drove on that one the other day. WTF? Check tire light on this morning, I'm sure that's not a coincidence.

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a-german-muffin t1_ix85mkt wrote

Eh, it was 23 degrees. PV=nRT, your tires are soft in this weather.

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Alexgbell215 t1_ix8688o wrote

Alls you need is a traffic cone and wham! Philly Phinished!

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Fat_Head_Carl t1_ix8qpob wrote

you really really really must want to drive down that street in order to deal with that bullshit.

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piper4hire t1_ix8wdxl wrote

man - after all these months of repeatedly digging up the streets for PGW now SEPTA is going to replace all the tracks. will it never end?

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PM_Me_Your_WorkFiles t1_ix92w3x wrote

And PGW still hasn’t repaved where they put temporary fill in… poplar is a fucking mess with some holes deep enough to actually get your car stuck, all while it’s taking all the traffic normally going up and down girard. This shit is embarrassing

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OptimusSublime t1_ix95dmq wrote

On the 311 app - - Describe the size of the pothole: ...It's complicated.

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Readcoolbooks t1_ix9d6or wrote

We live right where this photo was taken. This has been a huge pain in the ass since they’ve left it for what feels like 2 weeks now. The “closure” at 30th and Girard isn’t making it any better. I can’t believe they felt fine leaving 30th street like this. They were towing cars today on the left side so hopefully it means they’re doing some sort of work on it today.

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asweetpepper t1_ixas2zn wrote

I racked up a $500 bill at the mechanic this weekend after driving over some bump on Kelly drive that hit my exhaust pipe. The state of our roads is truly shameful.

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Salamander220 t1_ix7vfdz wrote

They dug out the trolly tracks???

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Fattom23 t1_ix83eew wrote

No, this is 30th just north of Girard. Although they have been digging up the trolley tracks to replace them.

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tellmeitsagift t1_ix8i32i wrote

On Girard, at the intersection near Sedgley I think, they dug them up and the work has been sitting there untouched for like 5-6 weeks.

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Iankill t1_ix8vg1b wrote

Not gonna lie hell probably has better roads

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luckygirl721 t1_ix9336x wrote

I thought it was paved with good intentions. I guess the city has even given up on that pretense.

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JohnnyG789 t1_ix93wmf wrote

I agree with all of the above statements and the city should do something to correct asap. Has this been the local news tv stations? Maybe it'll get some traction if it's reported there.

On a lighter note- It could be is the city is digging to look for the Upside Down.

For those who don't watch Stranger Things:

The Upside Down is an alternate dimension that mirrors our world — or at least our world if it was a toxic hellscape overrun with creepy, moving vines, filled with murderous creatures linked together in a hive mind system, and is constantly experiencing electrical storms.

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owenhinton98 t1_ixacuum wrote

My suspension gave out just looking at this

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AlanTrebek t1_ix94j8q wrote

What in the fuckity fuckery is this? Our city is corrupt.

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NO-CONDOMS t1_ix97ill wrote

Can’t tell where the road end and the sidewalk begins....

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whatisevenleft t1_ix97pzm wrote

One crew digs up the streets and another one paves them. It’s not a great system since they wait a week or so between actions.

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Samuel__2019 t1_ix9devl wrote

Shitadelphia, see it every night, what’s wrong with this town??

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p0rkch0ps t1_ix9ljlm wrote

why does philly hate itself?

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Ld862 t1_ix9vb27 wrote

Radiator springs? Is that you?

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Equivalent_Advance_6 t1_ixac0jc wrote

Hi friend - call 311 and don’t stop calling till all of your part of town is fixed. They are the one city agency that answers the phone + gets shit done. For some razzle dazzle - tweet them with this pic and tag in Philly mayor and other offices.

It gets noticed.

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kkirchhoff t1_ixaeinn wrote

Sometimes I think they do this shit on purpose. Or they dig up half the street and say “fuck it, this is hard” and leave

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thegreendutch t1_ixbbtib wrote

My vehicle weeps just looking at this situation.

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Wuz314159 t1_ix8g2n6 wrote

Ukraine? Russian bombing is getting bad.

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PettyAndretti t1_ix8jlsk wrote

and this is one of the reasons I drive a lifted truck in the city & don’t think twice about it.

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ckn t1_ixdkxuq wrote

my god. i left philly in late '95 after attempting to pitch a mostly built a web based 311 like system for FREE to the city because of stuff like this in South and West philly. This was a project i did while at Temple for some RTF credits in Dr. D'Augustino's classes - Ed Rendell flat up rejected it after our pitch... man...

Just proves that more Philly changes, the more it wants to remain the same.

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