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PhillyAccount t1_jdut2w5 wrote

Restaurants, hospitals, schools...everything is going to be fucked if the water is compromised

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bestdadhandsdown t1_jduwr2g wrote

Hospitals most certain have the infrastructure in place for this type of emergency.

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bierdimpfe t1_jduzwbo wrote

Would this be in the form of reserve water supplies, water treatment equipment, something else?

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felldestroyed t1_jdv388s wrote

Reserve. Hospitals, assisted living center, and skilled nursing facilities are required to have on site water for 72 hours and a contract for a 1 month supply with a 3rd party supplier (typically sysco). These are rules baked into medicare/state law.

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rndljfry t1_jdv5s18 wrote

Sounds like communism, imagine how much more profitable the hospitals could be without stupid useless regulations like this

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felldestroyed t1_jdv68kr wrote

Well, if we didn't have these regulations, the hospital will totally 100% pass on the savings to you! That's how capitalism works, duh! /s if that was needed

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rndljfry t1_jdv7d4l wrote

My favorite story on this topic is that when the sugar tax went into effect, my employer "made up for it" by increasing the price of a 12oz iced tea by $0.70 to offset the $0.18 tax.

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rushrhees t1_jdv0jh3 wrote

Probably a combination of those and they probably hold off anything elective until water is fixed

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Banglophile t1_jduvujm wrote

Someone on RRR said that the Wawa on Ridge won't have coffee today.

The devastation caused by lack of coffee will lead to protests. As soon as I am fully awake I'm organizing.

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sunplaysbass t1_jduxv1a wrote

Maybe those ‘water protectors’ were on to something about water being invaluable

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SouthPhilly_215 t1_jduulrs wrote

Ice machines should get unplugged at midnight or earlier…

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crispydukes t1_jduwi1j wrote

Even when the alert happened, the city said that dishes could be washed in the water - just not directly consuming it.

Sounds like bars and breweries will be open, though, plastic cups and tanks filled with water before midnight.

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memphisbelle t1_jduwpmq wrote

Ice is still an issue, will need to buy it

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crispydukes t1_jduwy5u wrote

No ice in beer and wine, or if the ice box is big enough to hold a few days worth. But otherwise, yes.

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PhillyPanda t1_jdv15tz wrote

It’s recommended you don’t drink tap, not a requirement. There haven’t been any contaminates found

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OneToughFemale t1_jduz6d5 wrote

Most likely they'll get a shit ton of ice delivered and store it in their walk-in's

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NoREEEEEEtilBrooklyn t1_jdv29dg wrote

Depends on where it is in the city. Is it in Manayunk, West Philly, or Chestnut Hill? It will probably be open. Is it anywhere else in the city? Don’t know.

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the_hoagie t1_jdv49dj wrote

my guess is the water supply remains drinkable and they don't issue an alert to stop using it

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worsedadever t1_jdvtn5j wrote

i'm confident all city offices and staff will be told to stay home no matter what!

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Homegrownfunk t1_jdv4hqb wrote

My tap made coffee from the north east side tasted suspect today. Could be psychosomatic but I also drink the similar coffee most daily

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Brandar87 t1_jdv1ofb wrote

So all these sudden accidents with this chemical are just coincidence?

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mountjo t1_jdv2fd0 wrote

Not really. Deregulation has consequences.

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Brandar87 t1_jdv2ncc wrote

I'm not up with world policies what do you mean deregulation? Like I understand what the word means just in the context of these spills.

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FolesNick9 t1_jdv2rf9 wrote

These posts always intrigue me. Hate to break it to you, but this shit happened along the Delaware in a much more consistent (and hidden) basis during the time our parents and grandparents were alive.

While accountability to the culprits still needs significant improvement, the difference today vs the past is we have mechanisms that enable us to monitor water quality via advanced tech that would have tied the spill back to the plant eventually if they never spoke up. Also, having these devices in our pockets that let us know every facet in the world today no matter how big (chemical spill in water) or small (what color dump a kardashian took) has people dialed in for better or worse.

The world has always been a fucked up place, and for some people having access to information 24/7 has made people angry and paranoid. Imagine if twitter was around during world war 2, the imagery and content would have ruined humanity's soul forever

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Head-Kiwi-9601 t1_jdutca5 wrote

To make soup? To cook pasta?

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SubstantialWish t1_jdv2pc6 wrote

Yep i had a reservation last night and when i called to check that's exactly what they said they were doing

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VeryStab1eGenius t1_jduueyt wrote

Flint Michigan managed.

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zwirjosemito t1_jduyg1j wrote

Except they didn’t, and begged for help throughout their crisis.

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DrJawn t1_jdv0x42 wrote

They begged for water. Once they got bottles, they easily cooked pasta

They also couldn't just literally go to West Philly and drink tap water normally

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zwirjosemito t1_jdv2ekm wrote

At no point did I say the situations were the same, but reading is hard.

Also, it was lead, among other contaminants, in the water supply, which continues to poison residents to this day. Be best.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/detroit/news/michigan-still-dealing-with-fallout-from-flint-water-crisis-9-years-later/

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DrJawn t1_jdv5n71 wrote

At no point did I say it was a similar situation but reading is hard

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zwirjosemito t1_jdv5zpl wrote

“They also couldn't just literally go to West Philly and drink tap water normally”

Be best.

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DrJawn t1_jdv6geb wrote

Couldn't. As in could not. As in are not similar.

Be better.

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zwirjosemito t1_jdv6wi9 wrote

You are comparing them in response to my comment, implying that I’m saying they’re the same. And let’s not forget the literal first thing you said on this thread.

“Flint Michigan managed.”

Be best.

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DrJawn t1_jdv84ep wrote

lol that wasn't me

be better.

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zwirjosemito t1_jdv8oe1 wrote

You’re correct, you’re just the guy agreeing with that dude and downplaying the whole incident.

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DrJawn t1_jdv9cqr wrote

I'm downplaying the Philadelphia incident because it's much less severe than Flint because West Philly's water was not effected in any way and you could literally go to a bar in West Philly, buy a sandwich, and fill up a jug in the bathroom

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zwirjosemito t1_jdv9wgt wrote

From u/VeryStab1eGenius, in response to a question about how Flint “managed”:

“To cook with bottled water.”

Literally you, on the same thread, when I called out that dude by stating that they did not “manage”:

“They begged for water. Once they got bottles, they easily cooked pasta”

Just own what you said.

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DrJawn t1_jdvabeq wrote

It's a joke. Begging for water obviously being a horrendous situation to find yourself in while living in the richest country in the history of human civilization and using bottled water to cook pasta obviously not acceptable or comforting in anywa way shape or form.

The joke is provided context by the second sentence which states that these situations are in no way comparable (referencing the OG comment that Flint managed) because the water in West Philly is totally fine.

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OHIO_TERRORIST t1_jduvhyl wrote

Cooking food doesn’t use too much water in most cases, they will have a hard time cleaning those dirty dishes though…

Can’t see how they’ll be able to stay open unless they use disposable stuff. So the short answer is not long.

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ChurchOfLadyDew t1_jduxp4n wrote

Cooking food uses a LOT of water in most cases. All of the stocks are made with water, all of the vegetables that have been blanched, poached, par-boiled, all pasta is cooked in water, anything steamed. It seems near impossible to run most kitchens in this city save for places that are pulling frozen food and deep frying it.

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PhillyPanda t1_jdv5jp4 wrote

You can cook pretty much anything in stock vs water

You can buy stock.

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ChurchOfLadyDew t1_jdw1ir1 wrote

Fair enough, but is there enough stock available for every restaurant to purchase enough of it to run a kitchen? Delivered in time? What’s the cost? I don’t think it’s as simple as “you can buy stock”.

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PhillyPanda t1_jdw2aap wrote

I’d rather have a smaller menu then shut down, a lot of restaurants make their profit on booze

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sciencefaire t1_jdv01zj wrote

>Cooking food doesn’t use too much water in most cases

Have you ever cooked anything in your life? Cooking requires a lot of water. Even at the home level- adding in restaurant level prepping and it's fucked.

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OHIO_TERRORIST t1_jdv0vla wrote

There’s many ways to mitigate water usage while cooking food. Frying, baking, grilling, sautéing, use little water.

Once again, I’m acknowledging the cleaning process of kitchen utensils and dishes is often where most of the water is used and a restaurants will not be able to go long with out it.

However for many dishes, not a huge amount of water is used.

If restaurants wanted to stay open, I’m sure they could take off items that use a lot of water to make…

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PhillyPanda t1_jdv1ve2 wrote

I’m convinced most of r/philly would die in an actual emergency even if there was a simple solution available

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OHIO_TERRORIST t1_jdv2hxu wrote

I’m just saying there’s plenty of ways to make food without using a lot of water in the process. If you cook food, you’ll know there are hundreds of different ways to prepare every meal without water.

Look at all the food trucks and street vendors in the city. They all do it everyday without a line attached.

I’m not even disagreeing with people, yes, restaurants will be stained if the water is contaminated, I’m just literally saying dishes can be cooked with little water needed and certain restaurants can stay open, depending on what they are making.

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PhillyPanda t1_jdv37hx wrote

Oh I have an air fryer. Pretty much never use water to cook.

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chefNick92 t1_jduzqse wrote

Cooking food requires A TON of water. It could be a huge problem

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MithrandirLogic t1_jdv03g8 wrote

Boiling/heating water kills bacteria and viruses, it does not remove particulate. PFAS, heavy metals, etc. to me, that’s more of a concern in this situation.

Vast majority of filters on the market will not remove the latex if they are made with PFAS. Something to keep in mind.

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NinjaLanternShark t1_jduxagy wrote

Washing dishes is interesting -- there are different types of contaminants, but would anything contaminating remain on a dish after you wash and dry it?

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Head-Kiwi-9601 t1_jdus90u wrote

I have reservations for a birthday dinner Tuesday. Will restaurants be open in the city?

Edit: The stuff that triggers Reddit never ceases to amaze me. I just asked the question to illustrate a potential problem that occurred to me based on my personal situation.

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coal_min t1_jduv3tl wrote

I don’t think anyone knows at this point. They will make more announcements today after running more tests

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General_Coast_1594 t1_jdv3a0j wrote

Switch to a restaurant in west Philly or manayunk. It’s a different water source so it’s safe!

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