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[deleted] t1_j5janhw wrote

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liberocinderace t1_j5jm29n wrote

Ask them about fascism. List off all the things fascism stands for. List Modi’s deeds and compare them to fascism.

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huge_throbbing_pp OP t1_j5iszoz wrote

They will tell you that there is never was a 'toilet situation' and any contrary statement will earn you the title of globalist-christian-islamist-communist mega plot to undermine Hindus and India.

Edit: To be fair, even thought I personally didn't see any, many media outlets have reported that there has been reduction in open defecation and improvement in sanitation since Modi came into power. Even if it is true, it would be unfair to rule out the role of increase in general prosperity as a driving force behind it.

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bekaradmi t1_j5jt3ei wrote

hey, ask Modi-jojo to make a "law" to have him "delete" his comment, even if it is stretching the truth

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World_Navel t1_j5ivr48 wrote

“India blocks it” no, it’s actually Modi that blocks it. Let’s call a spade a spade.

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Faggaultt t1_j5j4vqh wrote

You missed the part where the majority of the Hindu population blindly follows Modi especially because of his blatant racism and Hindu supremacist views. A funny thing about Hinduism and the Brahman Caste, these clowns have been thinking they’re superior to everyone else for thousands of years, you can find plenty of stories by stranger being flabbergasted by this state of mind. Sadly things haven’t evolved much since then

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MC_chrome t1_j5jjwot wrote

Legitimate question: why are we still calling India and Turkey democracies when they are pretty transparently theocracies nowadays?

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FlyingFlyofHell t1_j5jo1rg wrote

Because Modi is still elected representative as he has won fair elections. The problem in India is that the Opposition doesn't have any proper candidate. You are stuck between Modi or Rahul Gandhi who most of the public didn't like but opposition is not moving away from him because he is Great Grand son of First Indian Prime Minister, Grand Son of First female Prime Minister and Son of a Prime Minister. The whole Opposition party is surrounding only one family and the list of the Corruption that party did is way too long to write. I can confirm they are not winning in 2024 also as they have not learned a thing after 2 losses. It is kind of similar to US thing but if Both Candidates are not good But you have to elect one which is less problematic and will actually do some development. like Yeah Modi do have that hard Conservative ideas but he is best politician regarding infrastructure development for the country as the movement he has won the Infra projects are Getting fast and new projects are getting announced and completed. He is also good regarding welfare schemes.

And even if India is Multi party parliamentary Democracy only Two Big Parties BJP and Congress actually have chances of Forming governments. There is a 3rd party emerging in India Called AAP but it will take more than decade for them to be any threat to the BJP.

Modi party BJP got 37% vote in last election Congress 20% other 42% is distributed among different parties which then chose to form coalition between one of these two parties.

So even if the majority of the country is not voted for you the country has the first past post voting system you will win.

So Yeah conclusion is until and unless Opposition don't bring any good candidate and assure public there won't be any corruptions and they will focus on Their promises , Modi and BJP will be winning elections.

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Shmodecious t1_j5jnk92 wrote

…because India has legitimate elections?

What do you think democracy is, when the government never does anything bad?

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[deleted] t1_j5jpcja wrote

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automatesaltshaker t1_j5jqn2b wrote

We’ll the US isn’t a democracy. It’s a Democratic republic. So by that measure half of Reddit would be right.

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GourangaPlusPlus t1_j5jrjya wrote

> We’ll the US isn’t a democracy. It’s a Democratic republic

My man, that's not a mutually exclusive statement

It's both

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MC_chrome t1_j5jp5uq wrote

If every action a government takes is based off of the religious beliefs of a particular group, that isn’t really a democracy anymore. As Modi has more than shown the world, he is perfectly content with using the Hindu religion to justify committing a number of horrible atrocities.

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Cranyx t1_j5jruzx wrote

> If every action a government takes is based off of the religious beliefs of a particular group, that isn’t really a democracy anymore.

If that group is the majority, then yes it is. I'm not sure you grasp what a democracy is. What you're almost getting at is the fact that democracy is not infallible. Terrible things can be done democratically.

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Shmodecious t1_j5jtnmb wrote

So if religious people vote for religious things, that isn’t democracy?

Look, I think democracy is better than any alternatives. But you’re being naively idealistic about it.

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BridgetheDivide t1_j5jpaw9 wrote

A reminder that Gandhi's chief complaint was that Indians were being treated the same as Black people lol

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huge_throbbing_pp OP t1_j5jsdrx wrote

> brahman caste

RSS is, by design, anti caste. That is one thing that is excellent about them. They promote equality among Hindus.

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Lallo-the-Long t1_j5ji70v wrote

I thought the caste system in India was largely ignored these days, is that not true? (I know next to nothing about the country currently but i have a smattering of knowledge about Indian history.)

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SloaneWolfe t1_j5jrmo2 wrote

It is very much so alive and well. Bottom castes (those who work without documentation or pay, given food scraps instead), still exist. For legitimate businesses too.

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FlyingFlyofHell t1_j5jolg1 wrote

Yes things have improved a lot but it still exists specially in Rural Areas. Especially regarding Marriages. Most of them are still happening within the castes in the Rural Areas.

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Lallo-the-Long t1_j5jpa94 wrote

I take it there's a big difference between rural and urban areas?

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FlyingFlyofHell t1_j5jq0gw wrote

Yes you can say that. but there is rapid Urbanization happening and so the outlook is good. But it will take at least 2 more decades IMO.

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SloaneWolfe t1_j5jr5lf wrote

why proselytize if you feel superior to everyone else? you don't make a good point here.

Also, who cares about proselytizing when you have people getting murdered by mobs over transporting cows, or accidentally hitting them on the road (as they're allowed to roam wherever they like)

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Faggaultt t1_j5jt0cr wrote

Hinduism isn’t like Abrahamic religions. They aren’t trying to convert you to save your soul or to worship their gods. It’s all about social structure and hierarchy. Something you wouldn’t understand if you see it through a Judeo Christian way

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Diz7 t1_j5jtsf4 wrote

>believe their religion is superior yet don’t want new converts

Using that logic, caste systems wouldn't exist. Just because one group thinks they are superior doesn't mean they want to invite people they consider inferior into their group. In fact it's usually the opposite.

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liberocinderace t1_j5jm8ed wrote

Kings are considered a lower caste than Brahmin. A major reason why India never centralized like China did was because of how powerful the Brahmin are.

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Faggaultt t1_j5jobvm wrote

Lol he is still from a upper caste and not a Dalit.

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JunahCg t1_j5j68is wrote

Is India particularly big on censorship? Or has Modi turned it that way? I have no context here, but I don't think of it as one if the especially tightly censored places. I don't have the sight lines to know if this is exceptional or business as usual in Modi's India.

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huge_throbbing_pp OP t1_j5ja149 wrote

Previous governments did censor a lot, especially in the 70s and 80s. It appears to make a comeback under modi. For example, Indira Gandhi (world’s first female dictator) banned BBC.

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SloaneWolfe t1_j5jsf2c wrote

Yes, India media/internet is fairly censored for a 'democratic' nation. Described as "partly free" by watchdog reports. When I lived and worked there during the pandemic, I kept running into blocked sites while seeking web security solutions for the business I worked for, it was ironic. All 'adult' material is banned, news media is heavily monitored by gov't officials who influence what gets published.

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mymar101 t1_j5jo1rs wrote

I’d be really curious as to the regular Indian views on Modi and his Russian support.

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huge_throbbing_pp OP t1_j5jsv70 wrote

Putin is quite popular in India. India and Russia enjoy excellent relationship (people to people level also) due to Brezhnev’s help with the war of 1971 and Stalin’s shipments of food grains in 1950s.

What is curious is that Indian right hates democrats (for obvious reasons) and that’s why relations with US deteriorated as soon as Biden took office. India was very close to US under Bush, Obama and Trump.

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Pathseg t1_j5js0h3 wrote

Regular indian (not reddit echo chamber) views are pretty decent for Modi and his Russian Support. Particularly because Modi is following policies which are best for his country and to not just follow the rest of Western alliances.

I believe not many countries have distinction today to be on good terms with the US and Russia at the same time. Just like Europe, India has been able to source Oil from Russia because it has to worry about its energy security needs.

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mlc885 t1_j5jssax wrote

Do they see no value in liberal democracy, or is it just that immediate needs like power and heat naturally override most people's desire for a better government ? Because obviously the average person isn't going to choose freezing or starving if they see no path to a better government, even if "radicals" would take the chance and continue to oppose a bad government with the belief that a good government can be created.

Oh, I didn't realize you were some nut who thinks protesters should be harmed.

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avi_gunner t1_j5js7bh wrote

Hardly a support. what should we do? Support the country(usa) that strengthened our enemy and tried to kill us?

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mymar101 t1_j5jsso1 wrote

He is funding the war I. Ukraine. That is the support I speak of.

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killer_ezio_00 t1_j5jeyq5 wrote

In India, Freedom of speech and press takes a hit when they see the word Narendra Modi

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BozoGubu t1_j5jp49z wrote

Not riots. It was genocide.

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HokieGirl07 t1_j5jtghy wrote

Didn’t know this was a thing - will watch it now!

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stonecats t1_j5jobzx wrote

i'm looking forward to part 2.
keep up the dissemination, reddit.

i found part 1 interesting as it's
very similar to ariel sharon's rise to pm.

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butsuon t1_j5jit34 wrote

You could remove every reference and image of him from this documentary and there would be no other person in the world you would consider.

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blaxk_hxle_xo t1_j5jo3mi wrote

Aaah yes release it when India is hosting G20 under Modi. Supereme court has given him a clean chit.

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Pathseg t1_j5jsutc wrote

I think western nations haven't come to realization, their views and their hit jobs like this BBC documentary on the PM Modi doesn't mean shit to the people of India.

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