Submitted by joyfullypresent t3_zpbhg9 in news
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a_seventh_knot t1_j0rye0f wrote
why do people keep sharing links to paywall sites?
Sacrifice_bhunt t1_j0s0f7l wrote
A few key paragraphs:
“The idea behind the Tren Maya is to draw the tourists of Cancún, Playa del Carmen and Tulum to some of the poorest parts of southern Mexico, luring them away from the beach and toward the rest of the Yucatán.”
“The archaeologists face a succession of almost impossible decisions. They’ve been directed to scour Mexico’s Yucatán Peninsula for undiscovered ruins and to rank them on a scale of one to four — from negligible importance to profound historical value. Anything judged less than a four will almost certainly be bisected by the rail line or destroyed altogether. The losses so far include millennia-old Maya homes and temples.”
“It’s so rich in archaeology that the only way to preserve everything would be to construct an upper story for the whole population,” said archaeologist Ivan Šprajc, a scholar of Maya civilization.”
helodriver87 t1_j0s41jo wrote
It's also going to cause serious damage and destabilization in the underwater cave systems of the region. I give it a decade before a cave ceiling gives way and swallows a train.
joyfullypresent OP t1_j0s63jc wrote
WaPo has direct "gift" links that Reddit is refusing to accept because they are short links. This just happened a day or so ago. Damn it. Sorry.
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joyfullypresent OP t1_j0s6cel wrote
Living in an area with mine subsidence, that was the first thing I thought of. I guess they've never seen a sinkhole swallow a house. I wouldn't ride that train!
joyfullypresent OP t1_j0s6p5y wrote
Do you know how to get around the problem with Reddit not accepting "gift" links? They just started rejecting them...It's a fascinating interactive article, though. I won't post any more links from there until the problem is fixed.
9Wind t1_j0s9il0 wrote
AMLO wants to "develop" the Yucatan with a tourism train, forcing it to be built by the military instead of the company that won the contract.
This train runs through archeological sites, which angers the population of the Yucatan which a large chunk is Mayan.
Archeologists are rushing to excavate sites before the government comes and tears them down.
What is not covered:
The Yucatan and Chiapas have a long history of attacking the Mexican government for intruding on its territory and heritage, and peace has only happened when the government does not touch the Yucatan at all.
With racism against indigenous in Mexico increasing with "whitexicans" showing up to disrespect Mayan sites, this can very easily start another caste war or Chiapas rebellion.
This is probably why AMLO brought in the military to build it, he is trying to start an incident with the Mayans in Mexico.
You can only guess the reason why.
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joyfullypresent OP t1_j0sbg9e wrote
Thank you!
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GBreezy t1_j0shcbh wrote
Why do redditors complain about the quality of journalism going down when they refuse to make it possible for newspapers to pay their journalists? Sorry, they are "paying them in exposure".
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LeapIntoInaction t1_j0socrv wrote
With all due respect (very little), most of the world that you can live in has been lived in for thousands of years, and you will always have to deal with the fact that you'd like to live there too.
We can't just exterminate everyone to make the world a lovely museum and, if you want to see level 11 of Crete, you're going to have to go through the 23 levels above it first, anyway. London, Paris, Athens and Rome are built over such incredible history, you have no idea. That goes for about everywhere else as well.
Record what you can.
zzyul t1_j0sowyp wrote
No, they should be paying them through advertising revenue like the non cable news channels do.
GBreezy t1_j0sq9d3 wrote
The amount of redditors with ad blockers is high. Add in the amount of money made off internet ads is incredibly low. Non-cable new channels are required to air news in their FCC licensing and is a loss leader. The entire plot of the movie Network is about that.
HKChad t1_j0t1dbo wrote
I give it less than that. I dive those caves and some are only 10ft deep, that's not much ceiling. They are ruining a unique place for a stupid train that's just a money laundering scheme and will never actually be useful.
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vhw_ t1_j0t6l9d wrote
What a dumb take. Source: I'm mexican.
The asshole president is just building it 'cause it's a way to steal money. And also connect his finca with the rest of the roads
helodriver87 t1_j0t8lbx wrote
Yeah, I've seen sunlight coming through holes in the ceiling in Nohoch as I crossed a sand pile at single digit depths. It's a disaster waiting to happen.
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TrailChems t1_j0ttsed wrote
Nothing bad ever happened from having corporations rule the media narrative, right?
Journalists should be beholden to the general public, not private institutions.
joyfullypresent OP t1_j0vobl9 wrote
So, we move with reckless abandon without prioritizing?
SeanConneryShlapsh t1_j0vx1o1 wrote
Ever watch The Curse of Oak island? The entire island is flooded with shafts and tunnels. It’s unreal the entire island hasn’t collapsed in on itself.
lionhart280 t1_j0was93 wrote
They are sending out archeologist teams to record and do precisely that. Reckless would be not sending thr archeologists.
lionhart280 t1_j0wbbl4 wrote
This likely will be largely net positive.
If you get say, 10,000 sites on the map and you have to path through 500 of them, and you rank them and choose the least useful sites, that's not so bad.
In return the tourism injection funnels money into all the other 9500 sites, giving you money to preserve those really well.
It's a lot like how the "pay momey to shoot an endangered animal" programs in Africa are actually protecting the species, cause the money they make for 1 animal dying pays enough to protect and save 1000 others.
And now that it's profitable, locals have a vested interest in preserving them because it brings in money.
joyfullypresent OP t1_j0wm8yu wrote
I agree in this case. However, AzerFox was referencing worldwide.
techleopard t1_j0wz4mz wrote
Imagine destroying your tourist attractions to build a tourist train.
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nooblevelum t1_j0z0o4m wrote
Being Mexican doesn’t make you an automatic authority on this lol. There are plenty of Mexican Amlovers that would say the opposite
OGUncleDonkey t1_j0rxpgy wrote
Can’t read it. Got the cliff notes?