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Re-AnImAt0r t1_ixfe9rv wrote

This violent assault happened 2 months ago in a police station surrounded by police officers. Why were they not immediately arrested or arrested an hour later after their superior viewed the footage...or arrested the next day when the chief of police viewed the footage?

needs to be a lot more punishment doled out here to all the other police who refused to perform their duty and arrest these 3. If you're a police officer and you witness a violent felony assault it is your duty to arrest the perpetrator(s), even if it is your buddy.

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TikTrd t1_ixfhr3k wrote

Not a police station. No police officers present. No chief of police reviewing video. This is a county jail. Corrections officers are the kind of guys that flunk out or can't qualify for a police department. Their training is a whopping 48 hours. We can all agree there are a myriad of issues with police departments but let's not confuse two very different things.

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ADuckNamedPhil t1_ixfizh4 wrote

I feel like understanding that it's wrong to beat their charges should not require special training, though.

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TikTrd t1_ixfja18 wrote

Completely agree! Nobody is denying that. I'm just saying don't make the assumption these racist pieces of shit are police

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SquidbillyCoy t1_ixfwy4q wrote

Sorry, it’s hard to keep the racist pieces of shit separate.

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buddyravage t1_ixgyye9 wrote

It's the blue uniforms that makes them hard to distinguish. As if by design...

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ADuckNamedPhil t1_ixfjlmk wrote

Ahh, I follow you now. Sorry about that.

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TikTrd t1_ixfjy1t wrote

No worries!! A lot of people apparently don't realize the difference. I blame TV 🙂

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Chknbone t1_ixjjff1 wrote

I blame all the racist cops that make it hard for other hard working racist to get away with thier power trips

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Crizbibble t1_ixfraf5 wrote

County jails are usually run by a Sheriff’s Department as they are the law enforcement for a county. Corrections Officer is usually a state job and they deal with prisons where people are doing a year or longer sentences. Local PD also have jail guards or officers but correctional officers I’m pretty sure are state. This wouldn’t apply here I don’t think but maybe. I don’t know this state’s organization

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TikTrd t1_ixfruur wrote

Yeah, it gets confusing. You can be a Sheriff's Deputy, which is a licensed law enforcement position. Or you can be a jailer with the Sheriff's Department, which isn't a licensed law enforcement position. They work the jail & not in the community like deputies

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Crizbibble t1_ixfsmgf wrote

So in a county setting a jailer isn’t supervising the person because they are innocent until proven guilty I assume but they do other tasks needed to run the facility like finger prints, food service, medical but under the supervision of a sheriff’s department and it’s deputies. Same thing would go for city jails until they can be transferred to county jails.

In the state lock ups a correctional officer is both supervising and administering that facility. Those usually have felons that have been convicted of a crime and the window is greater than 1 year.

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TikTrd t1_ixfttys wrote

Convicted people still go to county jail. Just for shorter terms. But yeah, they're also in there with people awaiting trial.

Sheriff's Dept Correctional Officers aren't sworn personnel like deputies. They don't have powers of arrest & aren't licensed peace officers. They do the same function as a state correctional officer - supervise inmates & run the facility.

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Me-as-I t1_ixfiu4t wrote

This must depend on the state. NY it's 12 months.

https://doccs.ny.gov/employment/correction-officer-trainee#:~:text=Correction%20Officer%20Trainees%20are%20required,8%2Dweek%20formal%20training%20program.

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TikTrd t1_ixfj0ab wrote

That's a state facility. Not a county jail. There are a lot of significant differences. Plus you'll notice it says their academy is only 8 weeks (2 months). The rest is regular on the job training

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Beaser t1_ixftgr3 wrote

Yeah I watched a juiced up wannabe Cop/MMA asshole who had to settle with being a CO beat the shit out of this 19 y/o with parkinson's.

All because he said "Hey Carr, I saw you sitting out in your Prius earlier. Do you sit when you pee too? " Just a childish jab. This guy is massive - 6'5" and all the time he spent outside the jail was at the gym.Not surprisingly his ego was so frail and he was insanely insecure. Welp he proceeded to bounce this guy off every wall as he dragged his ass to one of the holding cells for visits with your lawyer by the gate into our block.

When he had his fun, he left him in there for 4-5 hours while all the COs "visited" him. When he finally came back to our dorm he looked like shit. Thankfully he said only a few actually gave him more licks, most just gave him an earful for no reason and two of the old guys actually took the time to listen to him and calm him down.

Yeah the prison industrial complex that can pay flunkies $30-45$/hr even though plenty are worse people than many of the inmates whose lives they control 24/7. Yet teachers get paid like shit and universal healthcare is impossible to achieve.

Jail fucked me up. Thankfully despite all the terrible shit I saw and experienced. I realized after two months of trying to readjust to the real world it was up to me to change anything I didn't like about my life now that I had control of it again. That was almost 5 years ago and Ive gotten my masters in public policy, work full time in sales and am coming up on 5 years without booze or dope. But none of that rehabilitation was achieved inside those walls. I actually went backwards.

The problem with creating real change is the fact that jails and prisons are where we put people we don't want to help or don't know how to help. Then they become angrier and more bitter towards the society that has rejected them, stigmatizes their mere existence and provides little to no help with prisoner reentry when we send them back into their old environment and set them up to fail whether we let them max out and they're released with no supervision. Alternatively, they're released onto conditional supervision that provides more paths back to jail than onwards to success.

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Me-as-I t1_ixfp5tf wrote

> Corrections officers are the kind of guys that flunk out or can't qualify for a police department. Their training is a whopping 48 hours.

I don't know about county, but you didn't specify in what you said.

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TikTrd t1_ixfpmec wrote

I'm referring to the article & the post that we're on, of course

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mces97 t1_ixfqhk2 wrote

Fuck, corrections officers, in a corrections facility, where the inmates are unarmed (usually, unless homemade weapons), need MORE training than a cop, with a gun???

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TikTrd t1_ixfrd9b wrote

No silly! Lol. The training is only 8 weeks. The rest is on-the-job, similar to how rookie police are trained. You're working but you're still a trainee & aren't allowed to do everything yet

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mces97 t1_ixftug4 wrote

Oh ok. I was gonna say. Well, I did... 🙃

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SewSewBlue t1_ixfp566 wrote

1-2-3 not it!

Like it or not they are in the same boat. Getting beat up by a beat cop or or literally next guy down the line doesn't matter to the victim.

Both are still officers of the law.

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TikTrd t1_ixfqaeu wrote

I'm well aware. My comment is merely to point out to the person I'm responding to that we're not talking about police officers, a police station, or a Chief of Police reviewing footage (not like they would anyway), or even them being able to make an arrest if they did see something like this.

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DawgPack44 t1_ixgbc98 wrote

That’s not entirely true, although their initial training is minimal. In that county in Georgia, there are two options if you want to work in law enforcement: the Sheriff Department or the Police Department. For those who want to work as a Deputy Sheriff, everyone starts as a Corrections Officer. That’s the only path. And, in general, people looking to get into law enforcement (in that area) prefer the Sheriff Department over the Police Department for the overall benefits and work environment.

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Vendedda t1_ixfyfsu wrote

Also many of the jails in Ga are privately owned and hire whoever they want

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ImplicitMishegoss t1_ixil526 wrote

Judging by the guys jacket, at least one guy there was a sherriff’s deputy.

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darthanubis t1_ixfq7pe wrote

Because the 6 months training real pigs get produces a different outcome. Maybe it does. Because the professionals would’ve finished the job and hung him in his cell.

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TikTrd t1_ixfqfqq wrote

You have such a terrible view on life. I feel kinda sorry for you

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clorcan t1_ixg2ep3 wrote

You know why it won't work that way. Those monsters were beating him on the assumption it would never see the light of day (as is usual in these situations). Plus the DA has to work with the police who did this, then it's up to the judge (federal judges decided paul manafort, "led an otherwise blameless life" being convicted of 8 /14 charges)."

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mistersmith_22 t1_ixgku4u wrote

There should be a federal law that any officer found guilty of a crime gets a 2X sentence for betraying their oath.

I mean there need to be a lot of federal laws to correct policing, but I really like that idea.

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amibeingadick420 t1_ixhry6c wrote

We can say, “there should be a law,” all we want, but the fact is that the politicians that make the laws, the judges that interpret the laws, and the prosecutors that decide when to bring charges will never allow that because they all rely on cops to violently enforce their authority.

They are all part of the same criminal gang. The only way they will face consequences or accountability is when the citizens force it on them.

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PlayedUOonBaja t1_ixhggmc wrote

Even if the length of time isn't increased for them, the time they do will be 10x harder. The dudes are white prison guards in jail for beating up a black prisoner. They are not going to have fun.

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Retrogressive t1_ixhlmli wrote

Movies have fooled you. Cops, guards, etc. either end up in PC(protective custody) or at a minimum security camp which are an order of magnitude safer(and nicer) than the vast majority of prisons.

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The__Illuminaughty t1_ixfhep4 wrote

Article doesn't have video - Found this partially blurred video

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ableseacat14 t1_ixflsga wrote

https://youtu.be/rX69bODXypI

This has a more clear video

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fxsoap t1_ixh094x wrote

Jesus other inmates had to stop the guards?

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amibeingadick420 t1_ixhrj56 wrote

Cops and prison guards, as well as the prosecutors, judges, and politicians that protect them are the worst criminal thugs in our society. It’s no surprise that other inmates had more humanity than them.

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Aurion7 t1_ixgjw76 wrote

I'm more surprised they were arrested than I am surprised some guards would assault a prisoner.

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IrishmanErrant t1_ixixc3v wrote

This seems like it places blame in exactly the wrong place.

It's a good thing that unjustified use of force won't be tolerated.

If your prison doesn't have enough staff, blame the owners and the administration. Don't blame the ethics; if it's a for-profit prison it's already by definition a completely unethical workplace

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IrishmanErrant t1_ixj1vnm wrote

If you work for a state-run and state-owned prison, then even more so we need to hold the administration and the civil servants in charge responsible.

That doesn't make it acceptable to beat prisoners; it means we have more legal authority over your bosses to make sure prisoners aren't mistreated AND to make sure you have enough coworkers to ensure that happens.

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cursedjayrock t1_ixj5jee wrote

Sounds like we might be sending too many people to jail/prison and should look into fixing the problems that are causing that. One thing that might help, is legalizing marajuana federally. No state should be able to make it illegal within their borders (of course age restrictions for purchase). That should reduce the staffing problem by reducing the people needing supervised. Maybe we can convert an old jail/prison that no longer needs to house prisoners into a place where the homeless population can go to be rehabilitated and sent back into society, further reducing arrests.

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cursedjayrock t1_ixj91sv wrote

True, but we could also reduce the stress on any given institution by reducing the amount of people being arrested for such crimes as marajuana possession. I agree that there are lots of people that are in institutions that have done awful things, hell my local Juvenile Hall is so full of violent offenders for gang related activity that they don’t even lock up children unless it’s really bad, but making meaningful changes like what I stated before would reduce the overall Guard:Inmate ratio throughout providing your facility with the necessary staffing, as other locations can spare excess guards. It wouldn’t be a quick process, but would serve to provide several positive outcomes.

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Darkmortal10 t1_ixpd7i6 wrote

>administration has made it very clear that unjustified uses of force are not tolerated and they will hang you out to dry

Get back to me when they arrest the people who literally cooked an inmate to death in a shower. Prison guards use unnecessary, unjustifiable uses of force constantly.

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SanDiego212 t1_ixffx34 wrote

Racism and America. What else is new?

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Nasaman23 t1_ixg4fqz wrote

Dude was white/hispanic...

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Mumbles_Stiltskin t1_ixh5qnb wrote

As a Hispanic let me just clarify for you that white people do not see us as white. We are considered brown. That white/Hispanic bs only flies on SATs and the like.

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Mumbles_Stiltskin t1_ixiayae wrote

I don’t recall Zimmerman being deemed a white supremacist. Just a racist. Which you can be and still be a POC. Racism comes in all packages. Also Trayvon didn’t burglarize anything. He was pursued by Zimmerman because Zimmerman thought he “looked suspicious”, an altercation broke out, Zimmerman shot a 17yo kid. And later auctioned off the weapon used for the murder for profit. Regardless of whether Trayvon instigated the altercation or not and Zimmerman shot him in self defense, selling the weapon for profit is fucking abhorrent and morally bankrupt. Stop making shit up to fit your narrative.

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DeepRoot t1_ixhxavf wrote

Violent attack from a burglar... wtf?!? You're letting your racism show.

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DeepRoot t1_ixhyxeo wrote

There was no burglary in that case, nothing was broken into nor stolen. You're making things up.

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Darkmortal10 t1_ixpdox9 wrote

Racists sure do love being contrarians

>I'm so cool guys!! I'm going against the popular narrative!!! Conservativism is the new counter culture kids!!!!

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Jmazoso t1_ixfm7hp wrote

They should have a good time in prison. Sucks to be them /s

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DrothReloaded t1_ixgtb88 wrote

Bold of you to presume they will actually be held accountable.

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Jmazoso t1_ixid1ev wrote

As a person who is pro police, these guys should do extra time for being asshats

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DungeonGushers t1_ixidt3p wrote

Asshat is what I call my good buddy who says something stupid. These clowns are way beyond such soft terms.

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corrective_action t1_ixie80l wrote

For real. Can we stop sounding like five year olds, and not call people like Putin, bin Salman, or abusive law enforcement operators asshats?

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verasev t1_ixjg3y0 wrote

It can be hard, sometimes, to properly describe someone that awful. Let me try: they're such grotesque parodies of human beings that even having to hear about them is like some kind of transcendent negative religious experience.

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NocturnalFuzz t1_ixfwrwn wrote

For someone 'in the know', does this not count as cruel and unusual punishment? Since it was a beating brought on by state-sanctioned guards before a trial was ever given. Makes me assume all charges are dropped and someone get's a hefty paycheck.

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DawgPack44 t1_ixgbvk9 wrote

It was partially in retaliation for the inmate breaking an officer’s wrist and resisting arrest earlier in the day before this video was recorded

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NoGoodDM t1_ixgesn9 wrote

Thank you for the context. So then, yes, it is cruel and unusual punishment for breaking someone’s wrist and resisting arrest. Because I’m pretty sure the punishment for assault and resisting arrest isn’t supposed to be a beating.

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S1ck0fant t1_ixi6n69 wrote

As the law stands the incident must be Cruel AND Unusual. Both not either.

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thehoot79 t1_ixfl1kl wrote

Just in case anybody needed a reminder. The police are not here to help you.

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ThisPlaceSucksBad t1_ixfp3xf wrote

Should be put in general population.

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ScienceLivesInsideMe t1_ixhsp9v wrote

No. You are doing the thing. Being an idiot. You are retaliating, that is the opposite of what we are trying to do.

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Darkmortal10 t1_ixpdinn wrote

They shouldn't get special treatment just cus they're guards.

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ThisPlaceSucksBad t1_ixhz8yc wrote

I said it in the nice way, what should really happen to them is much worse and I would get called an evil authoritarian communist for suggesting it and my account banned. Liberals like you have no answer to the white supremacist reactionary scum that are spreading through the West like a cancer, COMMUNISTS DO.

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smurfettekcmo t1_ixgxf4t wrote

I count 4 white guards attacking in this picture.

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FelbrHostu t1_ixfrdgm wrote

Those are the most Georgia names, ever.

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reddit-sucks-ass_ t1_ixh08wn wrote

Good. This town’s police a sheriff are fucked.

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[deleted] t1_ixgb3y2 wrote

Sick and also very very very common this shit happens everyday to black people inmates and citizens outside of jail! I hope they pay big time for their disgusting acts

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mokey619 t1_ixgfl2z wrote

Check them cameras at the twin towers in downtown LA they kill inmates so regularly it's a trip.

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PengieP111 t1_ixfpsqi wrote

They should be forced to do their time in that prison.

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V3rtigo44 t1_ixfulm4 wrote

County jail is generally for those that are awaiting sentencing. They serve their time at an actual prison

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Phreekyj101 t1_ixfs1yw wrote

Only 3 ?? What the actual fuck ??

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cloneketsuji t1_ixhu3d3 wrote

This story: 3k likes

Taylor Swift Ticketmaster bullshit: 30k likes

U.S.A.! U.S.A.!! U.S.A.!!!

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AngusVanhookHinson t1_ixflszh wrote

Every jail or prison guard is a failed cop, too fucking stupid or egomaniacal or sadistic for even the Band of Bastards to give them a chance.

I've been downvoted to hell every time I've stated this FACT. No one ever hears about guards betting on prison fights. Or starving inmates, feeding them nutriloaf for a week because they have the audacity to have an opinion. No one ever hears about the "accidents" that happen when somehow, six guards bump into an inmate in a blind spot.

I lived that shit for a year, and I'll die on this hill. If all cops are bastards, all prison guards are so much worse, that I don't even have a fucking word for them, and I like to think I'm a pretty articulate guy. But no one asks questions because Americans believe inmates are less than human.

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I_am_Relic t1_ixhqfy6 wrote

For fucks sake....

Thats all Mr. non american foreigner has to say.

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zethro33 t1_ixftp7q wrote

In their defense they probably did the same to a white prisoner later that day.

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Darkmortal10 t1_ixpduw6 wrote

This is the state that tried brushing 3 white men lynching a black man till the video was leaked and went viral. Not sure why this is being downvoted

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mistersmith_22 t1_ixr02zm wrote

It’s being downvoted bc reddit is full of angry white little boys who choose to pretend everything is fine.

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Pay-Green t1_ixie5da wrote

Whites being whites thats all

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TwoFrontHitters t1_ixfpli8 wrote

Wow. When posted earlier there was literally no disclosure of anyone's race. Thanks OP. Your ass is showing.

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Darqnyz t1_ixfz6xu wrote

The irony here being that if you read this on an Alt-Right website, and they replaced all descriptions of race with slurs, you wouldn't blink twice.

We get it, you don't like people being humanized.

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Aurion7 t1_ixgk1y7 wrote

Context matters.

In fact, as a general rule, more information about something is usually a good thing.

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