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alessandro_673 t1_j9zkpzi wrote

The reality is much worse. Probably closer to 100,000 but they are underreporting the numbers

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kushhaze420 t1_j9yke28 wrote

They need some building codes put in place. Shoddy construction kills.

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pegothejerk t1_j9yllnn wrote

They have them. Erdogan took bribes to waive them, and also stole tens of billions from public coffers for earthquake compliance over the years. What they need to do is clean house.

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Didact67 t1_j9ys4sh wrote

Right before this earthquake, the Turkish parliament was ready to pass a law that would expand those exemptions.

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TyrionsCodpiece t1_j9ywafr wrote

Much easier to clean house when they're reduced to lego bricks.....

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janethefish t1_ja08bm8 wrote

I saw a picture of an engineering building, undamaged and surrounded by rubble from buildings destroyed in the quake.

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alessandro_673 t1_j9zka8t wrote

It’s less that Erdogan took bribes himself, more that he didn’t really appoint ministers to watch over everything, and so the reality was that building inspectors would show up before the construction really started, took a bribe, and then didn’t come back. It’s definitely Erdogans fault, and everyone knew it was happening.

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ghostdokes t1_j9zb9yf wrote

Thats a big fucking number

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ryryrondo t1_ja0tl3x wrote

About 101,000 reported deaths from COVID in Turkey as well. That is extremely saddening for their people.

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TrinkieTrinkie522cat t1_ja0wv39 wrote

Compare this to the Loma Prieta earthquake in Calif. A 7.2 and a 6.9. Death toll was 63.

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CKT_Ken t1_ja1bdtx wrote

Magnitude is only relevant for people with an interest in geology. What matters the most is the intensity of the observed above ground shaking, which was less in the cali earthquake (9/12) than Turkey (11/12) per wikipedia.

Lots of Turkey’s buildings also suck, but the Loma Prieta earthquake would never have killed this many people even if it happened in Turkey.

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FamiliarTry403 t1_ja34kgo wrote

I thought these Turkey earthquakes were also only a 9 on the scale

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nikzyk t1_ja1hdsy wrote

Damn that as if my entire town was wiped off the map. I hope building regulation get taken more seriously in the future and positive change is made from this while holding sheisters accountable.

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Itchy-Top t1_j9zg2i8 wrote

Will the politicians be kicked out yet?

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R-ZoroKingOFHell t1_ja02l4o wrote

May/June elections. Not sure if they pushed them back, but heard that would be unconstitutional. Erdogan buckled on Sweden and Finland joining NATO real quick so that was fun to watch, going to be the fight of his political life.

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The_Quiet-Kid t1_ja4xspt wrote

The law says the elections can only be delayed in time of war. Elections will happen.

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lordph8 t1_ja33om9 wrote

Didn't he shut down Twitter during rescue operations because people were talking shit about him?

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shirk-work t1_jac5mkv wrote

Probably reelected and given increased compensation

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TheRynoceros t1_j9y6llp wrote

Over the last 2 weeks I have not seen 1 article with Turkey spelled Turkiye, like they decided to change it a couple years ago.

Wassup with that?

Edit because some of y'all need some context to suit your short-term memory loss: On 4 December 2021, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan issued a presidential circular calling for exports to be labelled "Made in Türkiye". The circular also said that in relation to other governmental communications "necessary sensitivity will be shown on the use of the phrase 'Türkiye' instead of phrases such as 'Turkey,'

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CircaSixty8 t1_j9y7kox wrote

I think they have way bigger concerns than that right now.

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TheRynoceros t1_j9yo64d wrote

I don't think they're the ones putting out articles in English-speaking newspapers

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Powah_Dank t1_j9yejgu wrote

Germany, or Deutschland?

Iceland, or Island?

Japan, or Nippon?

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TheRynoceros t1_j9yvahg wrote

It's always been Turkiye there but in 2021 Erdogan launched a rebranding campaign and basically told everybody else to spell it right. So we all did. But then we just quit when they had earthquakes?

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JanitorKarl t1_j9zaqlw wrote

For one thing, that u with the two dots is not an English letter. For another, it's not uncommon for country names in English (or other languages, for that matter) to be different than what they are in native country. For example, Spain, Germany, Norway, Japan. In other words, Turkiye, or whatever, isn't the authority on what the country is called in other languages.

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TheRynoceros t1_j9zdalv wrote

It was a whole big thing in the news and on reddit. And if you spelled it the old way, umlauts or not, then you were seen as the asshole. Everybody played along, out of respect or whatever.

This is not something near and dear to my heart. The last time I even mentioned Turkiye, outside the context of a sandwich, was when they made a fuss about it. It was some shit that everybody else (journalists and publications specifically) had been doing right up until recently. I'm just curious why they reverted back.

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Obtusus t1_j9y9za7 wrote

Probably for the same reason people would have the names of japanese people in the western style name→surname, instead of the proper surname→name as used locally. A good example of this is whenever japanese PMs are being talked about, such as the late Abe Shinzo being called Shinzo Abe in the west.

I'd guess it boils down to bad reporting/not caring, but who knows.

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Willinton06 t1_j9z67i1 wrote

Cause no one gives enough of a fuck, Turkey is not a person, it can’t feel insulted by you using the old name

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rtb001 t1_ja0z336 wrote

Yet western press is very careful about saying Ukraine and not "The Ukraine" in their reporting, as well as Kyiv, and not Kiev, despite the fact that the latter terms have been used for a hundred years.

They do it because the Ukranians asked them to do so. The Turks have made the same request, but I guess nobody really cares in the western press.

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Willinton06 t1_ja0zejj wrote

Well Ukraine is way more natural than “The Ukraine”, you got me in the Kiev part tho

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