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TheRynoceros t1_j9y6llp wrote

Over the last 2 weeks I have not seen 1 article with Turkey spelled Turkiye, like they decided to change it a couple years ago.

Wassup with that?

Edit because some of y'all need some context to suit your short-term memory loss: On 4 December 2021, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan issued a presidential circular calling for exports to be labelled "Made in Türkiye". The circular also said that in relation to other governmental communications "necessary sensitivity will be shown on the use of the phrase 'Türkiye' instead of phrases such as 'Turkey,'

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CircaSixty8 t1_j9y7kox wrote

I think they have way bigger concerns than that right now.

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TheRynoceros t1_j9yo64d wrote

I don't think they're the ones putting out articles in English-speaking newspapers

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Powah_Dank t1_j9yejgu wrote

Germany, or Deutschland?

Iceland, or Island?

Japan, or Nippon?

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TheRynoceros t1_j9yvahg wrote

It's always been Turkiye there but in 2021 Erdogan launched a rebranding campaign and basically told everybody else to spell it right. So we all did. But then we just quit when they had earthquakes?

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JanitorKarl t1_j9zaqlw wrote

For one thing, that u with the two dots is not an English letter. For another, it's not uncommon for country names in English (or other languages, for that matter) to be different than what they are in native country. For example, Spain, Germany, Norway, Japan. In other words, Turkiye, or whatever, isn't the authority on what the country is called in other languages.

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TheRynoceros t1_j9zdalv wrote

It was a whole big thing in the news and on reddit. And if you spelled it the old way, umlauts or not, then you were seen as the asshole. Everybody played along, out of respect or whatever.

This is not something near and dear to my heart. The last time I even mentioned Turkiye, outside the context of a sandwich, was when they made a fuss about it. It was some shit that everybody else (journalists and publications specifically) had been doing right up until recently. I'm just curious why they reverted back.

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Obtusus t1_j9y9za7 wrote

Probably for the same reason people would have the names of japanese people in the western style name→surname, instead of the proper surname→name as used locally. A good example of this is whenever japanese PMs are being talked about, such as the late Abe Shinzo being called Shinzo Abe in the west.

I'd guess it boils down to bad reporting/not caring, but who knows.

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Willinton06 t1_j9z67i1 wrote

Cause no one gives enough of a fuck, Turkey is not a person, it can’t feel insulted by you using the old name

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rtb001 t1_ja0z336 wrote

Yet western press is very careful about saying Ukraine and not "The Ukraine" in their reporting, as well as Kyiv, and not Kiev, despite the fact that the latter terms have been used for a hundred years.

They do it because the Ukranians asked them to do so. The Turks have made the same request, but I guess nobody really cares in the western press.

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Willinton06 t1_ja0zejj wrote

Well Ukraine is way more natural than “The Ukraine”, you got me in the Kiev part tho

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