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FamiliarTry403 t1_j751x2f wrote

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I’m all for safe storage laws, red flag laws, more extensive background checks, and things like that, actually enforcing all of those things is easier said than done. I believe tho abolishing the 2nd amendment will do more harm than good. Gun buy backs will only be so effective even with cash incentive, people still have the means to manufacture their own firearms that laws can’t fully stop, you have more guns than people that would have to be accounted for and that’s just the legal firearms. It’s a mess through and through tho.

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SynkkaMetsa t1_j75gu7y wrote

So 3 things to start, 1 safe storage laws, mostly unconstitutional under Heller v DC (and with NYSPRA v Bruen almost likely so), red flag laws, extreme grey area on 4th amendment rights if not implemented properly (and with the 5th circuit ruling that restraining orders are not a means to take guns...well, red flags may be analogous given they are somewhat similar in the approach, but we'll see how that plays out if the AG appeals higher) , more extensive background checks... the background things checked on the background check are all good, the issue is localities failing to turn information over to the FBI. And any extended background check that takes a few days to complete...well they don't do anything, they just run NICS as usual and sit around and make it a wait-period law instead.

Also gun buybacks are hilarious to me, they are basically "hey, I'll give you $100 for that $2000 gun you got" because apparently the legislatures think it is <2000's still in terms of gun prices...like, nahhh, and then people 3D print firearms to show how much of a joke the whole thing is anyway.

Not trying to be snarky, just pointing out the reality of all these things. We'd likely be better off trying an approach which doesn't affect 2A or any of our other rights...because apparently politicians don't get that, we are at the point where they are purposefully testing the boundaries knowing it is a grey area (and in some cases knowing 100% that they are attacking a right), and that's not good for any of our rights.

Tangent: I wish I could say that they truly believed it was about safety...but I've read so many of their proposed bills, it is not about safety, they simply hate gun owners just like you see with people here on reddit which clearly have a bias against gun owners, so why would politicians be any different, they are after all, just people, and like people, are influenced by those around them.

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xavis t1_j75jr5s wrote

reddit associates gun owners with being republicans (because they are the vocal ones about guns), and just see anti gun laws as punishing republicans.

because a liberal would never own a gun. no siree bob.

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