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coma24 t1_is59ots wrote

It appears the reason for charges not being filed are because she wouldn't sign the complaint, because, "'In order to do that,' she told Newsweek, 'I would have to return to Point Pleasant Beach, and I'm not doing that unless someone pays me to.'"

So, as easy as it is to trash the system, the simple fact is that she didn't want to move forward with the charges.

Interestingly, the guy's friends apparently gave the assailant's name to the club owner, who then passed it on to the police when the police spoke with the owner.

It's all in the article.

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Workodactyl t1_is5gq5p wrote

This is Reddit. We don’t read the articles.

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mattwaver t1_is6it8o wrote

what’s an article

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Chose_a_usersname t1_is8wny3 wrote

I barely know what a title is, I search by controversial and throw my two cents in

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bigtime_porgrammer t1_is5f9jr wrote

The part about not returning to Point Pleasant sounded like a joke to me. The article also said:

>On Tuesday, Point Pleasant Beach police said they also had been in touch with Elias, but said she could not see who threw the beer because of the stage lights and declined to sign a complaint.

That's a mature and responsible position - she could have easily gone along with pointing the finger at the guy everyone else identified. She probably also figures it's better for her career to show that she won the fight with the hecklers herself, right there on the stage. No more justice needed from her perspective, despite many people having the understandable reaction that the guy should face actual consequences.

Also, interesting that the article said he was identified by his companions. In the video, you can hear someone off camera saying something like, "I'm never going out with you guys again".

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StriderTB t1_is5i55q wrote

It annoys me that being charged is predicated on her signing a complaint. The act happened regardless.

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bigtime_porgrammer t1_is5jio7 wrote

That's one path to him getting charged. Apparently the club is pressing charges.

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ReverseMermaidMorty t1_is75eit wrote

Makes sense, won’t help the club’s reputation if performers are at risk for being assaulted on stage there without consequences.

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sutisuc t1_is5iqlx wrote

If you want to charge someone with a crime you have to be able to have someone who will attest to actually observing the crime. I don’t know what other alternative you’d like?

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StriderTB t1_is5kvg0 wrote

There was a room full of people who can attest to it.

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sutisuc t1_is5l6e0 wrote

That’s implying those people would want to and then follow through with a case involving strangers going forward. You also have to get a victim to attest to it causing them to feel harm, threatened, etc, so either way she’d have to be involved

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StriderTB t1_is5lrrq wrote

It's just amazing that the party of law, order, and personal responsibility (lol) always manages to do whatever the fuck they want, consequence-free.

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sutisuc t1_is5nr4h wrote

Yeah I mean no argument from me there but that’s probably also a factor in why the comedian doesn’t want to bother in the first place

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GitEmSteveDave t1_is70jay wrote

Can't she e-sign it? Or do a zoom where she swears out the complaint? Didn't COVID teach us anything?

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d0mini0nicco t1_is5eqln wrote

Maybe I'm petty....but you bet your ass I'd have gone back to do that.

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twothumbswayup t1_is5mn70 wrote

>It's all in the article.

im sorry this is reddit - we dont do that around here!

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thebruns t1_is624zj wrote

I guess I can start murdering people left and right because if theyre dead they cant sign a complaint

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coma24 t1_is6aqjy wrote

oh c'mon. Obviously, the DA can choose to press charges, too. However, in minor cases like this, if the person doesn't want to move ahead, they don't.

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thebruns t1_is6fqg8 wrote

Sounds like theyre too lazy to do their job.

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coma24 t1_is6gwe9 wrote

Or, there's a process that's followed and if the victim doesn't want to press charges (ie, wouldn't want to file a police report, or show up in court), then they drop it knowing they won't be able to get a conviction without the victim's support. But sure, let's just go with "they're lazy."

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thebruns t1_is6h4hx wrote

> they won't be able to get a conviction without the victim's support

Its on camera. Youre telling me a jury would be shown the video and say thats fine?

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coma24 t1_is6p0w0 wrote

That's irrelevant as the case would not be brought to trial without the support of the victim afaik. It's ok, we can disagree.

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Top-Crazy1731 t1_is8n137 wrote

It's harassment not the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. It would be heard in municipal court by a judge not a jury. It's considered a disorderly persons offense. The victim is the only one who can sign the complaint for a dp unless it is witnessed by the officer except in domestic violence situations.

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thebruns t1_is8qjpv wrote

> unless it is witnessed by the officer

Show the video to the officer.

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GitEmSteveDave t1_is71drr wrote

Think how hard a court case is when one side of it refuses to cooperate? It's why so many domestic violence cases fall through.

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thebruns t1_is730fu wrote

I guess I can start murdering people left and right because if theyre dead they cant cooperate and it will make the job harder for the cops

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DizzyWithEternity t1_is6lyes wrote

If you listen closely to the video, you can hear someone loudly complain something like "I'm never hanging out with this fucking group again" so I'm not surprised

Edit: "yo I'm never coming out with this group of people ever again" definitely the guy that told the bar lol

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daedalus_was_right t1_is6sv9a wrote

This is misleading. Individuals do not "press charges" in our justice system; the state does. This task falls to the district attorney in charge of the case. They have WIDE discretion in choosing to press charges or not, which is why we often see these instances of victims declining to pursue the issue and DAs declining to press charges as a result. But this is 100% on the DA; they absolutely have the power to move forward with charges regardless of what the victim wants.

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coma24 t1_is75vj5 wrote

That's fair, and I eluded to the fact that the DA can move forward on their own in a follow-up response earlier.

However, if the police are asking if the victim wants to move forward and they say no, then unless it's an egregious circumstance, I don't see how the DA moves forward when the victim will NOT cooperate. That will be a really quick discussion with the DA, presumably, "Does she wanna press?" "Nope." "Next!"

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GBAfanboy t1_is6tsod wrote

In her defense, neither do I, and I used to be in the Borough/Brick region. Point Beach sucks, anywhere else on the shore is better

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psuedonymously t1_is6kvkz wrote

> It appears the reason for charges not being filed are because she wouldn't sign the complaint, because, "'In order to do that,' she told Newsweek, 'I would have to return to Point Pleasant Beach, and I'm not doing that unless someone pays me to.'"

It is absolutely not necessary for there to be a signed complaint by someone for charges to be pressed. Also, even if it was, there would be no need for them to physically travel to Point Pleasant to do so.

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tigertail5644 t1_is86qm9 wrote

Police don't need a signed complaint to move forward when a crime is on video. It's like saying they can't move forward with a murder trial because the dead person won't sign a complaint.

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[deleted] t1_is5417r wrote

I really don’t have high expectations for police and definitely don’t have high expectations for point pleasant police.

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brook_lyn_lopez t1_is57cwr wrote

How many conversations at the Point Pleasant police department revolve around moving to Florida?

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dethskwirl t1_is5hrgd wrote

It's North Carolina now. they're all afraid of the hurricanes and flooding, so they're all buying up real estate in Asheville, but they won't dare be caught admitting that climate change is a problem either.

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8Deer-JaguarClaw t1_is7g19w wrote

That's hilarious. Asheville is like the Austin of NC. It's hippies, LGBTQ, artists, musicians, and generally left-wing stuff. They gonna hate it.

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structuremonkey t1_is56fu3 wrote

They probably agree with the attempted assault. so why would they charge? Also republican controlled town, and county...charging this isn't in their interest....smh

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lostatwork314 t1_is5kit5 wrote

If it's a disorderly person's offense the comedian would be the one who needs to sign the complaint, not the police.

Police only sign them if the act is done within their presence, with very few exceptions to that, such as domestic violence.

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[deleted] t1_is5kuzc wrote

Interesting! Thank you for informing me. I still stand by my statement though.

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Swoah t1_is7c976 wrote

So you didn’t read the article starting they didn’t pursue charges because she didn’t want to press. Made some dumb misinformed comment. Got politely corrected, and still stood by your (wrong) statement.

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[deleted] t1_is54322 wrote

Republicans are the biggest bunch of triggered losers on this planet.

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LetsAllSmokin t1_is5gfb6 wrote

Same people that bitch and moan to "not bring politics into everything"

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[deleted] t1_is5i201 wrote

“Fuck your feelings” “Snowflakes”

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sparklynailz t1_is61tob wrote

I’m so disappointed this happened in Jersey (but not shocked).

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No_Investigator6777 t1_is62cs4 wrote

It's very Florida

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sparklynailz t1_is637gl wrote

LOL tbh I had thought that too on my first watch over on Twitter, not realizing I know where Uncle Vinnie’s is. Also the audience members accent went completely over my head upon first watch.

ETA - I know a lot of trumpy’s fleeing from NJ to FL, so checks out.

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well_damm t1_is7t48d wrote

Why ? Have you seen central and south jersey ?

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kittyglitther t1_is53k2e wrote

This article has the exchange if you're curious.

And yes, the beer thrower's companion is a red hatter. You can't take republicans anywhere!

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midnitte t1_is5851g wrote

> “I can tell by the fact that you’re still talking when nobody wants you to that you voted for Trump,” the comedian replied to big cheers from the audience.

.... > “As soon as I picked up the beer and felt liquid still in it,” Elias told Newsweek today, “I knew to chug it. It felt like the only way to recover. Also suddenly I really needed a drink, so it really worked out.”

Brilliant.

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patsully98 t1_is6egf9 wrote

The beer was thrown by the woman's husband, "who then valiantly fled the scene." 😆

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StriderTB t1_is59593 wrote

Of course not, it was probably a cop who threw it.

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R-code t1_is5gawq wrote

If it was a cop he would have thrown the beer first and then claimed the comedian had a knife.

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sutisuc t1_is5id90 wrote

Fuck point pleasant (borough and beach)

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GomezCups t1_is61req wrote

Cheap taxes, low crime, and good education systems. Terrible place to live.

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sutisuc t1_is6255n wrote

And an even worse place to visit!

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sugarintheboots t1_is5whya wrote

Well, at least those trashy magas got banned.

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KingofNJ22 t1_is63oee wrote

Damn when I saw that video I assumed it was Oklahoma or something.

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MrRob_NJ t1_is61z83 wrote

When I first saw this story, I had no idea this was in Jersey. Hopefully somebody ID's this Maga waste of life and he gets put in check. If there's any good to come from this, I hope this helps her succeed in getting her name out there.

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CrackaZach05 t1_is6mas3 wrote

Imagine being that hurt by someone dissing your favorite...politician? WTF has this country become lol

When is someone going to start making trading cards? Jesus

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yuriydee t1_is74ab0 wrote

She handled the situation well and is now getting famous of it. Ironic that a dumbass maga guy throwing a beer led to that.

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jimmybagels t1_is76w5n wrote

She might get a spot on jimmy kimmel now, so she might

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yuriydee t1_is77gzp wrote

Yep i meant to say she is now* getting famous so it might work out for her. Of course doesnt excuse throwing beer on stage

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FunGoolAGotz t1_is9v6wj wrote

yeah..that yet another example of MAGA hypocrisy "Law & Order"...only when Tucker says it is ok !

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SilverKnightTM314 t1_is7gjlp wrote

By the clip shown in the article (which I recommend you watch), she seems like a very talented and likable comedian. The incidient has helped bost her popularity, and may appear on Jimmey Kimmel.

""But ultimately, he has to live with himself, and that's probably punishment enough." from her twitter account

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FunGoolAGotz t1_is6s6wn wrote

does anyone know the name of the guy who threw the can?

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One-Mall-950 t1_is71fe1 wrote

Very disappointed! These idiots meant bodily injury to the comic. These actions HAVE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

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Ripley129 t1_is7kdc2 wrote

Lol, cause they Trump loving asshats.

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justnmang t1_is8l4c1 wrote

I live in Point. I wish they would publish the person's name. We should be able to identify the shitheads among us.

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hfhifi t1_is95l68 wrote

Remember, she said she was “the only Jew in the room” which is certainly part of why the MAGA chick went off. If I were her, I wouldn’t want to go back to that town for fear of overt antisemitism.

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InspiredBlue t1_is6ylu0 wrote

Oh wow I had seen the video but has no idea it happened here in jersey

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PurpleSailor t1_isbdwzv wrote

Ah, it's a shame she won't press charges but I can understand not wanting to make one or more trips to a place I don't live near.

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BigDomSr t1_itml055 wrote

The family friendly drunken fool town that fought tooth and nail against cannabis legalization! Because it’s a family town.

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Linenoise77 t1_is6ia5n wrote

If i don't get a beer thrown at me at Jenks, i feel like i missed out on the experience.

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No_Investigator6777 t1_is5iryp wrote

Anyone know if she's actually funny? She's about to get alot of airtime

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bigtime_porgrammer t1_is5r8em wrote

Probably, but that's a matter of individual taste. One person's funny is another person's beer can throwing rage trigger, apparently.

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RippingAallDay t1_isa3bj0 wrote

Does anyone know why your question is remotely relevant?

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No_Investigator6777 t1_isa3nap wrote

I was simply wondering if she was a good comic. Never heard of her. And she's about to get famous so I was just curious. Kimmel wants her and hopefully her career takes off from this.

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