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onlyme1984 t1_iuc17w7 wrote

Doc Brown would lose his mind if he heard this. 11 gigawatts powering millions of homes by 2040

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SailingSpark t1_iuc2bds wrote

Not if towns like Ocean City have their way.

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s1ugg0 t1_iud8ie1 wrote

Sustainable energy from aesthetically pleasing power generators bringing permanent well paying jobs. Clearly a threat to the quality of life of Ocean City residents. /s

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ImRedditorRick t1_iud8sf0 wrote

These cunts only care about their view.

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s1ugg0 t1_iud9mpg wrote

I know. And I think they are being stupid. Because if the choice is between this and this it seems like an easy choice to me.

By the way. Both those images are of real, existing power generators here in NJ. So this is literally the choice.

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oatmealparty t1_iudchv8 wrote

I never understood why people think wind turbines ruin their view, I think they look great. Most likely just making up excuses to oppose renewable energy, the same way right wingers say shit like "but what about the birds killed by wind energy?" or "but there's so much mercury in CFL bulbs!"

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ImRedditorRick t1_iue08es wrote

It's just an insane, moronic argument because there is NO good reason to not go renewable in many cases, but the right had made it a political thing, so they have to latch onto something to explain why they're opposed to it

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s1ugg0 t1_iuddfjs wrote

I agree with you. I also like the way they look.

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SailingSpark t1_iudrb88 wrote

I work in Atlantic City near the turbines there. I think they look good and they do not bother the view at all. If anything the sewerage plant they are located at looks better because of the turbines.

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CapeManiac t1_iufeslg wrote

Jokes on them. Soon enough water front property will be inland enough to not see the turbines.

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Comfortable_Vast1946 t1_iuh6fmr wrote

Those turbine blades are not recyclable or biodegradable and end up in landfills, there's more controversy with them i believe.

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onlyme1984 t1_iuc2vnb wrote

Guessing that they’re not on board with this

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MaxCapricorn t1_iudikuk wrote

I seem to recall driving past a coal power plant on my way in to Ocean City for my entire life. They can take it easy. Wind turbines are definitely an upgrade over that gigantic cooling tower.

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SailingSpark t1_iudrhsb wrote

BL England. It was converted from Coal to oil and is now in the process of being torn down completely. They collapsed the cooling tower last month.

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Eatcake9 t1_iue0g99 wrote

They wanted to originally convert it to Nat Gas but it would have required a new pipeline directly through the Pinelands.

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slibberynibble t1_iudp451 wrote

LBI too so many people have those move them 35 miles out save lbi signs on their lawn

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h0w13 t1_iue5qhz wrote

Which is just a ludicrous distance offshore

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SailingSpark t1_iudrq0k wrote

https://www.downbeach.com/2022/06/25/ocean-city-continues-battle-against-offshore-wind-farm/#:~:text=Ocean%20City%20officials%20have%20been,migratory%20birds%20and%20marine%20life.

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TimSPC t1_iud5esl wrote

Jersey Shore NIMBYs in shambles.

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shant_jan t1_iudhga9 wrote

playing the smallest violin for the view from their summer homes

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Basedrum777 t1_iudyb2q wrote

That we paid for after they got destroyed in sandy.....

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-MACHO-MAN- t1_iucen7i wrote

good, any energy that is greener and us-based is a positive at this point

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heyitsmikep t1_iud7xt9 wrote

People 5 miles inland are going to complain about their ruined "view".

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h0w13 t1_iue5h56 wrote

They're still planning on putting these like 15 miles out, right?

People seem to be under the impression that you'll be staring up at them from the edge of the waters. I don't think there's an appreciation for how far 15 miles is.

Long Beach Island is 18ish miles long. From the top of the waterslides in Beach Haven, you can't see the lighthouse in Barnegat Light. Windmills would be the same.

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TheBombDimitri t1_iue91ye wrote

Exactly. Lewes has a turbine on the beach that Uof Delaware owns. It's about the same distance to Cape May. I know exactly where it is and 90% of the time it is visible it takes a me a minute to find it on the horizon and you can barely see it. More often than not it is too hazy to see.

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brain_gotta_poop t1_iud3ubp wrote

I heard those things cause cancer. >!/s!<

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The_Band_Geek t1_iuehkvu wrote

Upvoted to offset everyone who doesn't understand the sarcasm.

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Yohzer67 t1_iufa1ci wrote

If I remember correctly, current peak power demand in the state is about 13 gigawatts so 11 would be stellar.

I wonder what the estimated average production is?

I did see some sad win turbines in the Catskills on Thursday, no wind no money.

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Duh-2020 t1_iudk9m9 wrote

Every source of energy and every location has some negative. Risks vs costs vs benefits, a conundrum as old as the earth itself. Those risks and costs are always "minimal" unless you are directly affected by them. For example people are killed every day by hitting or damaged utility poles. Did we totally eliminate them to do away with that risk of one falling over while you're at a stoplight and getting you. Sometimes in some places we do by moving utilities underground. Of course then other risks from that. The cost of moving them underground are substantially more than leaving them on poles. Some places have decided those costs are worth the benefits, other places haven't. Same applies to generation. Unfortunately, the choice has to be made between different costs and different risks and different benefits. We are world dependent on cheap energy. There's never an easy answer.

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itsSRL t1_iudeg79 wrote

I am all for greener energy but wind power really kills thousands of birds. Wish we would embrace nuclear more

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JaredBanyard t1_iudkwyo wrote

You may want to look at wind power vs domestic cats and how deadly they are to the bird population.

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LeftHandedAnt t1_iudp00q wrote

I'm sure we can come up with some tech to keep the birds away. Sounds like a challenge for some NJ high schools or colleges to me. Maybe State funded.

Edit: Here's a freebie to get everyone rolling because I love CS and animals. A fleet of AI drones that intercept incoming flocks and play an incredibly irritating sound when in the vicinity of the birds until their vector is acceptable. There. Enjoy. They could station and charge right on top of the turbines.

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jerseygunz t1_iudvs68 wrote

Don’t forget good old fashioned habitat destruction!

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itsSRL t1_iuhu7mn wrote

I love how i provide a factual statement, than even propose an alternative towards a different power source and i get down voted as well as having people put sarcastic comments. Good discussion

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itsSRL t1_iuhtoct wrote

What does this have to do with windmills killing birds and my wish to move towards nuclear?

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mooslar t1_iue3t3b wrote

Such an ignorant uneducated opinion. Did you come up with that yourself or are you parroting somebody else’s propaganda?

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itsSRL t1_iuhtj2x wrote

Which part is uneducated? Windmills to kill thousands of birds a year. And i said i wish we moved towards nuclear, which is the cleanest source of energy. What part is propoganda?

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Automatic-Crow-5394 t1_iudephw wrote

How about when oil starts leaking out of them or they start burning or the upkeep costs more than what they produce. How environmentally safe is that? Do your research before you start trashing people!

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mooslar t1_iue3nec wrote

Ah yes because even one of those accidents happen, that makes it dirtier than our current options for power generation…

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Automatic-Crow-5394 t1_iuemqxp wrote

For the power you need to supply nj you would need thousands of them. Don't forget murphy will try to pass it because he put alot of money into it. What will happen to ocean life and the upkeep and where do you put the broken plastic which won't degrade so tell me again how environmentally safe it is!

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