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alexkourtis OP t1_ixc8q2q wrote

Reply to comment by smartest_kobold in I'm European, how to move to New Hampshire? by alexkourtis

im a libertarian... ive always wanted to come to the US as far back as i can remember... and i chose NH when i was 17-18... now im 24.... its always been one of my dreams : )

you are very lucky you are americans

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Jean-Paul_Sartre t1_ixcclrv wrote

Yeah give it a few years, I was a libertarian at your age too but then adulthood set in.

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alexkourtis OP t1_ixcdeo3 wrote

Yea i know what you mean actually... I'm not full on libertarian tbh ... I believe in the importance of the state... but generally speaking i want to live in a freer place.. Greece is unfortunately an extremely Communist society and not in the good way like north Europe.. I feel my heart's calling telling me to leave this place and go somewhere where i belong...

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Relative_Election_81 t1_ixdcouv wrote

Libertarians are not opposed to the state existing. That would be an anarchist. Libertarians are basically just liberals from 20 years ago, before that label was co-opted by alt-left authoritarian extremists.

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turk4lyfe t1_ixds4ke wrote

20 years ago was 2002. Are you referring to the democratic party? If so, I think you are confused/ignorant.

Here is the 2000 party platform.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2000-democratic-party-platform

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Relative_Election_81 t1_ixnj1qv wrote

No, what I am is a liberal who is disgusted with what the Democrat party has become and the fact that they now stand in direct opposition to liberal ideals. Cope.

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turk4lyfe t1_ixo9fx6 wrote

But I provided resources showing you the part platform from 20 years ago and it doesn't resemble what you are claiming it did.

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Relative_Election_81 t1_ixq7weg wrote

I'm aware of what you posted, your confusion stems from the fact that you appear to be unaware that your post was a complete non sequitur. I'm talking about people, not parties. If you think party platforms are an accurate reflection of what people who support that party actually believe, or even an accurate reflection of the beliefs and actions of the politicians in that party, then you haven't been paying attention.

But let's talk about parties. 20 years ago the Democrat Party was not opposed to freedom of speech. Now they are. You don't get to be opposed to the most basic of all human rights, the very underpinning of liberalism, and pretend that you're a liberal.

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alexkourtis OP t1_ixddea4 wrote

Aggree. But basically i felt like saying that word basically lures opposers for a straw man fallacy where they go like: "oMg So YoU ThINk eVeRyThING sHoULD bE PraivAtELy oWnED just because youre privileged and don't experience the problems of capitalism first hand? Basically they just assume you are some hardcore ancap.... Which I'm not tbh

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Relative_Election_81 t1_ixnjhbq wrote

That's to be expected, it is standard procedure for extremists to misrepresent people who they can't compose a compelling or even coherent argument against.

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smartest_kobold t1_ixchf1i wrote

How much do you think it costs in America to fill a cavity?

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alexkourtis OP t1_ixdar7g wrote

In Greece it's free if u go to a public hospital... In a private clinic it starts from maybe 20 euros but it could get more expensive if you go to a fancy one...

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alexkourtis OP t1_ixcdgd0 wrote

Why the downvotes?

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thenagain11 t1_ixcgr17 wrote

Do some research on the "free state project" before moving. Lot of us native New Hampshirites aren't crazy about the idea.

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Low-Head-1493 t1_ixckcg0 wrote

Because we are tired of libertarians thinking that they can move here, use tax payer-funded roads, vote to gut public services, and tell everyone that they are libertarian every chance they get.

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vexingsilence t1_ixcwci4 wrote

"We" who? It's a purple state, no one speaks for all granite staters.

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Relative_Election_81 t1_ixdccym wrote

You don't speak for the people of new hampshire, flatlander. Go back to Massachusetts.

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Low-Head-1493 t1_ixdlrjm wrote

It’s so cute when you guys get angry and bust out flatlander as an insult.

I can walk out my door and access trailheads to a 4,000 footer without even driving… have been lucky enough to live in several parts of this state over the years where I could do so… but go off!

Btw it’s a purple state politically… maybe some day you’ll be able to grasp that concept without blaming Massachusetts?

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Rare_Message_7204 t1_ixcwk42 wrote

Ignore the downvotes. You're trying to move away from a place where liberal policies have failed. The liberals of reddit can't stand listening to someone who has lived it and truly knows better.

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vscduebr t1_ixczfq2 wrote

No one on reddit supports anything but extreme left wing thinking, atleast on these smaller subreddits comments like yours and mine will last a few hours before they get downvote bombed. Like another comment mentioned, they cant handle seeing someone trying to escape out of the policies they are trying so desperately to convert our ‘free state’ into.

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5nd t1_ixcepor wrote

Reddit is dominated by leftoids

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lMickNastyl t1_ixd9rd5 wrote

We are going to drag you all screaming into the bright gay future.

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4ever48 t1_ixdf83o wrote

Not true. Which communities do YOU hang out in??

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linuxnh t1_ixdhlcg wrote

It’s already been mentioned but several people have moved from abroad to NH due to the free states project - that’s another realm you could look into and ask

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Drivedrivefff t1_ixej5nn wrote

Don't worry about what anyone on reddit says regarding politics or libertarianism. As soon as you stray from repeating the leftwing talking points of the day it's just strawmen and hate.

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Rizingfire t1_ixd40pi wrote

If a libertarian id suggest going more South & find a red state where you can enjoy freedom without always being on the verge of losing it.

Besides our Governor, we just re-elected some of the worst anti-freedom pieces of garbage to represent our state in the House & Senate...they just spend millions on campaigns of lies to trick stupid people & it works...

Plus the weather can be challenging up here...

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Relative_Election_81 t1_ixdbzrr wrote

Part of the problem was that we had garbage candidates running against them, Hassan definitely would have been fired if her moron Republican opponent hadn't falsely accused a libertarian of assaulting him and alienated half his base in the process

*Edit: fixed typos resulting from speech to text

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