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beadebaser t1_jdud085 wrote

Reply to comment by Kavbastyrd in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak

As a medieval historian described it, depicting William Wallace as wearing a tartan kilt and woad paint on his face in the 13th century is similar to making a film about George Washington where he leads his forces into battle wearing a modern day business suit and a native war bonnet

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TiberiusClackus t1_jduty3n wrote

Yeah but if it starred Mel Gibson in his prime I’d probably still watch it and love it

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daviator88 t1_jduybp0 wrote

It's a great movie, just not historical at all whatsoever

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Tap_Z_or_R_Twice t1_jdv2xpm wrote

Well there definitely was someone named William Wallace before so it's slightly historical.

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Ctotheg t1_jdvfd8n wrote

Braveheart was the nickname for King Robert the Bruce, not William Wallace.

And when Wallace was executed it was worse than the film: Four different horses, one per limb, dragged Wallace for miles to his execution. He was hanged almost to the point of death, before being taken down and horrifically mutilated. While still breathing, his genitals were sliced off, his entrails pulled out, and his innards burned in front of him. It was only then Wallace was decapitated and dismembered. Wallace's head was placed on London Bridge, while the four quarters of his body were placed in Stirling, Aberdeen, Berwick, and Newcastle.

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AuntieDawnsKitchen t1_jdvum5d wrote

And yet not as disturbing as the fact that Princess Isabella would have been 3 at that point.

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leicanthrope t1_jdwijoz wrote

Apparently the author is a descendent, or at least claims to be. The earlier drafts of the script are much more one-sided and fanboy-esque, to the point where they're approaching "everybody clapped" territory.

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DeusEx-Machinist t1_jdx9e49 wrote

Many years ago when I was in high school, my teacher told us that Wallace was castrated first, then drug by horse. I'm not sure which is worse, frankly.

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Knows_all_secrets t1_jdv660z wrote

Just like it would be slightly historical if there was a film about George Washington wearing a modern day business suit and a native war bonnet sneaking his forces across the Delaware Bridge in the night.

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supafluous t1_jdv9md3 wrote

Preposterous. Surely he would use the Washington Crossing Bridge.

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FirstChurchOfBrutus t1_jdwt9gw wrote

They did. It was called The Patriot, and it was every bit as accurate as what was just described.

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TiberiusClackus t1_jdx4k28 wrote

I’ve seen it about a dozen times and would watch it again tonight. Mel Gibson was made of solid gold from 1995-2005

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FirstChurchOfBrutus t1_jdxa41i wrote

As someone who lived in Charleston when it was being filmed, and as someone who has a special place in his heart for Nathaniel Greene, I do enjoy watching it. It’s just that, like the musket balls they fired, it is not the kind of thing I expect to have any sort of accuracy. If I were a(n) Historian, I would be aghast at the liberties (pun intended) taken by this film.

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Kataphractoi t1_jdy7urt wrote

> If I were a(n) Historian, I would be aghast at the liberties (pun intended) taken by this film.

Medieval historians tend to view A Knight's Tale favorably. But that could be because AKT wasn't trying to be historical and was more just telling a story in a setting. Even with the anachronisms and other inaccuracies, the film still captures the atmosphere and mood that would've been present at a historical medieval tournament.

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wittor t1_jdwo5ui wrote

The problem is the widely accepted misconception that the historical moment happened as it is shown in the movie.
Like the joke, It is all fun and games untill people start to talk abou Abu Nazir as a real person.

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AstrumRimor t1_jdvb0am wrote

So what would he actually have worn? Furs and leathers?

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Snickims t1_jdvltt1 wrote

Armor and probably leather. Hell, just look up some art of the battle and you can get a pretty good picture.

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ShieldOnTheWall t1_jdxtwv1 wrote

He would have looked to you very similar to a "templar" or "Crusader" knight.

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Kataphractoi t1_jdy86n6 wrote

The real William Wallace was a minor noble, so metal armor of some kind. Probably not plate beyond what his helm would've been made of, but maille for sure.

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