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TakeThatRisk t1_iwm05hz wrote
What reason do you miss them for?
LyrMeThatBifrost t1_iwm0aag wrote
The sound lol. There’s something comforting about the way they sound. It’s hard to explain. Just very easy to listen to.
blorg OP t1_iwm51qj wrote
I have the HD800S as well but I still appreciate the HD6XX, it is a very different headphone. Technically, the HD800S is much better, but tonally, the HD6XX, and there are times I prefer that. It's also simply more compact, which can be better if lying in bed. To be honest the logical tonal upgrades to the HD6XX are really more the Focal Clear and Utopia, which I listen to more than the HD800S.
"Comforting" is right.
on9desu t1_iwmiufm wrote
I’ve been thinking of upgrading to the Focal Clear but hesitant because of the weight difference compared to the HD6x0. Comfort is a big factor for me because I wear headphones for 5+ hours a day. How is the comfort on the Clear in your opinion for long hour usage?
blorg OP t1_iwmjwxc wrote
I find it extremely comfortable, if anything the Clear is more comfortable than the HD6XX/HD600 because the clamp force is lower. It's not too low, it's still perfectly stable, just right. The HD6X0s aren't problematic for me, but I feel the clamp more, the Focals just dissolve away more. The HD800S is also very comfortable and with a light clamp, incidentally, but the Focals feel just a bit more stable.
For my head, at least, Focal make extremely comfortable headphones, I can wear them indefinitely. I did add a headband cover which spreads out the contact a bit but it's comfortable either way.
One issue with the Clear, it has a bit of a creak. It's not a major problem actually on the head but it does creak a lot putting it on, or handling it off the head. Just sort of a "$1,000 headphone shouldn't really do this" sort of thing.
on9desu t1_iwmok83 wrote
That is very helpful. Thank you. Clamp force actually doesn’t bother me that much. I’m one of those maniacs who doesn’t feel the need to stretch the headband on a brand new HD600 lol. But I dislike headphones that dig into the top of my head after wearing them for awhile. Unfortunately most higher end headphones are quite heavy so a lot of good sounding ones are out of my consideration. The NDH30 I tried recently had this problem even though it is just 350 grams. I had to return it due to the discomfort even though it sounded great. The DT 900 pro X has about the same weight but for some reason I don’t have a problem with it. So it is hard to tell with just the weight alone.
Yes the creak! I tried the Clear MG at a local store and that was the first thing I noticed as I was putting it on. I agree an expensive headphone shouldn’t be doing that. Definitely felt a bit cheap but everything else on it is super nice that kind of make up for it I guess lol. I’ve only tried it at the store so I couldn’t tell the long term usage on it. Thanks for the help!
KawaiifuWorks t1_iwnqlzk wrote
The weight isn't enough to really bother me. And the pads are more comfortable. I found it overall nicer to wear for extended durations.
Almost_Ascended t1_iwmplt9 wrote
Honestly, the brittle plastic headband is literally the only reason I've not considered them, even after their discount. It's simply unacceptable.
Sachdeva-Yusaf t1_iwncjiy wrote
Is it comparable to the HD598? The comfort and weight I mean. Barely feel like I’m wearing headphones with those
L4t3xs t1_iwnmdpi wrote
It took some breaking in for me as they clamped pretty hard imo. Now they feel perfect.
Not a fan of either of the pro version's cables, though. Coiled one is pretty heavy and the other one is short as hell.
HD660S was more comfortable for me initially but Focal is better after a while. Where my ears would touch the padding in the middle with Sennheisers there is no such problem with Focals.
KawaiifuWorks t1_iwnq9wr wrote
I'd agree. The Clears are what I ended up with after the HD6XX
TakeThatRisk t1_iwm0ehq wrote
Have you tried eqing your hd800s?
blorg OP t1_iwm59s0 wrote
It's still not the same, the HD800S EQs extremely well but is always going to sound somewhat ethereal and diffuse. It's a much better headphone technically, but the HD6XX does provide a different, more intimate presentation and is tonally possibly more "right" and natural sounding out of the box than any other headphone. If I could only pick one, sure I'd take the HD800S any day and EQ it. But for $199 can probably afford to keep the HD6XX around too.
LyrMeThatBifrost t1_iwm0gka wrote
Of course
7maniAlkhalaf t1_iwmbas1 wrote
Same, sold it for the DT1990 (which is my daily now) and genuinely have been in my “end game” for years. But I miss my HD650 so much.
clothing_throwaway t1_iwmnlxz wrote
I love having both 650s and 800S. They're like polar opposites and I enjoy them equally for entirely different reasons.
SteakTree t1_iwml4xj wrote
Can understand. Owned the HD650 twice. Then went the LCD2, HD800 and then Utopia route.
I wanted to only have one open-back over-ear and after many years have found the near ideal headphone in the HD660S. But HD650 is still different and has always had that magic to its sound.
DiscoWookie33 t1_iwlkxco wrote
If you are interested in these, get them. Highly unlikely they will ever be cheaper than this, and very likely the price goes up.
qdawgstorm t1_iwmllt2 wrote
The deeper discounts are yet to come...
suredont t1_iwmnbzc wrote
I checked and sure enough they had further Black Friday discounts last year. 179
pib319 t1_iwn16ij wrote
Yeah, but inflation is pretty high right now. I wouldn't bet on it just to save $20
suredont t1_iwn3pk2 wrote
Oh yeah. I personally paid 199 for my HD6XX and have never regretted it.
Almost_Ascended t1_ixpqcbo wrote
Too bad, you would have won your bet. $179 now.
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HiiiighPower t1_iwq6y85 wrote
Meh, this do this sale about two times a year. I got them back in July of this year for $200.
blorg OP t1_iwlcbid wrote
Minus $10 off your first order if you sign up to their newsletter, so $189 in that case. You should get a pop-up with this extra offer, if you don't try opening the link in incognito mode.
Drop do actually ship this internationally and international shipping is quite reasonable, $15-20. You may have import duties and/or VAT depending on your country's specifics, and luck of the draw, but this could well still work out as a very good price for what is essentially a dark blue HD650.
Area51Resident t1_iwnbpia wrote
I got the HD6XX a couple of years ago - no extra fees when shipped to Canada. FYI
Almost_Ascended t1_ixgwouv wrote
Who was the carrier that shipped it? Some older posts in the Drop forums indicated that Drop used DHL to ship, resulting in additional fees, has that changed? I may consider picking a pair up if there aren't extra fees outside shipping + taxes...
Area51Resident t1_ixhl86d wrote
I checked my emails from that time. Can't find what shipping company was used. At the time I think Drop had changed their shipping so that all fees were up front, but it was two years ago so I can't be sure if that was the case or if they still do that.
Almost_Ascended t1_ixiigjy wrote
Thank you anyway for trying, I appreciate it!
Myringingears t1_iwoo6hv wrote
This is so crazy cheap. I spent $660AUD on a pair of HD650s 17 years ago when they were basically the best headphones on the market. Stupid money at the time but all these years later, they still serve me well. I'm tempted to buy a pair of these now so if mine ever die I'll have a new spare pair lying around.
Key_Representative71 t1_iwlgybv wrote
But it's only available in Midnight Blue. I kinda hate how it looks tho 🙄
Ready_Throat5369 t1_iwm0omo wrote
The blue looks black in most lighting. So much so that I thought I'd received black headphones when I first got it. You only see the blue if you shine a light directly on it.
pladhoc t1_iwm8nnk wrote
TIL I have midnight blue HD6xx not black.
SteveThePirate_69 t1_iwn126l wrote
Unless you're looking at them under bright light, they 1000% look black.
WoodenSporkAudio t1_iwozhv1 wrote
Bane: For you!
blorg OP t1_iwlim90 wrote
I think it looks fine, I have it and the HD600. Thinking of selling the HD600 as I prefer the HD6XX so it's superfluous.
peanut_butter_lover4 t1_iwm3k8j wrote
It looks black unless you shine light directly on it.
testcaseseven t1_iwoq3tu wrote
I just shined a flashlight on mine and they are blue! I’ve been using them for 4 months now and just thought they were black. Even with a flashlight I had to stare at them for a bit to notice.
pisslord t1_iwpdpv1 wrote
Ditto, I thought mine were black until now
PsychwardSlippers t1_iwm413c wrote
They look much darker in person. From afar, they look black.
radrod69 t1_iwmnsyh wrote
I'm just here to corroborate, the blue tint is hard to notice in warm leaning lighting. I thought I'd hate it too but it's a very deep blue.
BoogKnight t1_iwm5zmj wrote
Can’t believe these have gone up to 280$ msrp now
AverageElaMain t1_iwnbxjj wrote
I find these prices crazy. My friend bought them like two years ago for $160 i think. I dont remember the exact number but it was around there. Then I bought them from him 6 months ago for $120, yet people are actually paying nearly $300??? Theyre really good, dont get me wrong, but the 6XX was always supposed to be cheap plastic headphone which measures up to the expensive professional 600S.
BoogKnight t1_iwnf3fm wrote
Well when it released it was 200$ and and was simply a 650 rebranded with mass drop and in blue. It’s still that but they’ve been increasing the price steadily over the last 2-3 years. It’s now losing the biggest advantage it had over other headphone, the price. It now has to compete in the 300$ range instead of 200$
AverageElaMain t1_iwng26p wrote
Well it also went on sale to like $140 once or twice.
AverageElaMain t1_iwpldqr wrote
To whomever is downvoting this, are you saying it never went down to $140? Im quite sure it did for like 48 hours at some point last year.
omgthatsm3 t1_ix2dlo9 wrote
Link or post regarding this?
AverageElaMain t1_ix2hbsr wrote
Mb mb, it was $160 not $140. You could get it $160 by making a new drop account and $180 for existing member.
tnick771 t1_iwmqqj5 wrote
I wish open backs made sense for me. I’m always so jealous of people that like them. But I like bass and my wife doesn’t like hearing my music lol
Historical-Arm-9756 t1_iwntr3p wrote
Closed backs don't mean more bass, the 6xx is just a bad can that happens to suck at bass and happens to be an open back.
StaticSpace0 t1_iwp0o8e wrote
you basically just repeated what original comment said but worded in a way where you forgot that preferences exist
DJ_Firth t1_iwlpfpo wrote
I wish drop served the UK market properly 😥
Microundeas t1_iwm0kph wrote
Crys in EU...
blorg OP t1_iwm5ywm wrote
$15 shipping to the EU, if you get the $10 first order discount that's $204 total shipped.
I put this in my comment, they do ship this internationally at a very reasonable rate.
Yes you'd need to pay VAT on import, if it's stopped. Americans need to pay sales tax on top of the price as well.
Almost_Ascended t1_iwmpyr2 wrote
While their shopping costs are reasonable, the fees charged by the shipping couriers they partner with are not. Look up the many horror stories of Canadians getting hit with huge fees after ordering from Drop.
blorg OP t1_iwof44e wrote
From a quick Google I got:
>When I got my K7xx, they didn't ding me. However, other items over time they have. I'm not sure what's their criteria. I will say, in general, the smaller the item, the likelier they will just let it by. However, if they do decide to value it, you will be charged $9.99 (fee) + HST/GST on (CAD$ converted value). There was no duty on my audio gear.
There's also another guy in this thread saying he wasn't charged for importing something to Canada. I'd expect to be charged but it's luck of the draw to an extent.
That doesn't sound unreasonable to me. I am European, I currently live in Thailand, in both importing stuff from outside we need to pay customs duty, VAT and the shipping company handling fee.
$10 CAD plus only the GST (5-15%) just doesn't sound unreasonable to me. Most of this is tax, that's a thing we all pay, this is what gets you schools and healthcare. It's still a good price for this headphone.
I explicitly said, expect to pay VAT on import. Sometimes, depending on country, it does just slip through, but I expect to pay it on anything I import. You pay it on anything you buy within the country, it's just baked into the price by the importer already (in every country that isn't the US or Canada, prices are quoted tax inclusive).
I paid $60 shipping on a headphone from Adorama, $105 from Audeze. The tax and shipping company fee is on top, I still have to pay that. And with couriers like these use, it's unavoidable, they always charge you. If something is sent USPS as it sounds like Drop do, there's a chance it won't be charged.
So yes $15-20 looks very reasonable.
dannyphantom_53 t1_iwmkdez wrote
58X is 150 rn, $50 off
Empole t1_ix7brb1 wrote
That's what I originally bought them at back in 2019.
Kirei13 t1_iwmmvvj wrote
HD 6xx are worth it at full price so anything below that is a steal. I just wish the import tax wouldn't be a problem with Drop, if only they had a Canadian branch.
Area51Resident t1_iwnc48o wrote
I got the HD6XX two years ago - no extra taxes or import fees - $15.00 for shipping to Southern Ontario was the only extra fee.
_mrsaru_ t1_iwv37rn wrote
You got lucky then, cause I've paid 10-15% customs on every order from drop I've made (elex, aeon closed x, 58x, 6xx, teak).
Historical-Arm-9756 t1_iwntvsx wrote
They aren't worth it at $100 and are a hard sell at $50 if you look at the rest of the market and not just "Linus said it's best under 1k so it must be"
Leetransform25 t1_iwmn0az wrote
TIL these apparently go for $280 now what have I been missing out on wtf
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jethryn t1_iwn5ojd wrote
Absolutely, did that for 2 years before getting a desk mic.
Had mine for 5 years now and might buy another pair just for a refresh
Historical-Arm-9756 t1_iwntzyu wrote
They are some of if not the worst gaming headphone money can buy. No, don't get them for gaming. Tbh, they aren't good for music either.
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ohtobymytoby t1_iwn17r5 wrote
I just want the THX00s to drop again someday for the love of all that is holy pandas
SteakTree t1_iwn3cig wrote
Yup, that was an incredible headphone. Sold it and wish I didn't. At the time I was thinking my XBA-Z5 was as good or better, which is/was the case, but sometimes you just want an over-ear closed back.
ohtobymytoby t1_iwn51js wrote
Same boat. Wish I got to try the ebonys at some point....God, the thx00s were just so damn fun. Bummer.
akeep113 t1_iwnbe4v wrote
still have mine. i will never let go! modded them too so i dont have that ridiculous cable attached
KawaiifuWorks t1_iwnr1yb wrote
You can check out EMU Teaks. Might be a good option for you and can be ordered directly still from EMU.
ohtobymytoby t1_iwoo89c wrote
When the hell did the removable teaks become $500 for the base model!?!
KawaiifuWorks t1_iwps378 wrote
It's always been that price. At least for a few years. I don't remember drop being much cheaper.
unnecessarycolon t1_iwnb9lf wrote
Just ordered them!
Historical-Arm-9756 t1_iwnunzg wrote
My condolences
p0tty t1_iwmaagj wrote
Are these a nice worthwhile upgrade to KRK kns8400? For like travel kind of listening? I have senn hd429 too. The KRK go really compact but if it’s a good upgrade I can better defend taking up more space.
Edit: NM they open, I want closed for travel!
Brymlo t1_iwmjtrp wrote
The HD25 are good on-ears for travel. Light, compact, and good sound.
louiseinalove t1_iwmbedg wrote
That's a pretty good price, but I don't have anything that would really power it at present. Just using a Fiio BTR5 for now, because it works nicely with the less powerful headphones I have.
Swagm0n t1_iwmf7so wrote
Pretty sure the BTR5 can handle it over balanced
Tater-Chip-Boi t1_iwmi1i7 wrote
You can listen at a nice volume over single ended 100%.
balanced is a p nice thing tho if you want. If you listen at a healthy level (<80ish) the single ended output will give you plenty of power. The btr5 can smack a surprisingly good volume.
PsychoPotoo t1_iwoz5lb wrote
They don't really need anything special to be powered, they work perfectly fine up to an uncomfortable / unsafe volume out of an Apple Dongle.
Altruistic_Ad5493 t1_iwmoptz wrote
Fiio BTR5 should power it perfectly fine
WoodenSporkAudio t1_iwozkbu wrote
BTR5 should be fine.
I_Speak_For_The_Ents t1_iwn0g87 wrote
Fuck I just got a new job after a month of unemployment. I hope this happens again.
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RobertSColorado t1_iwn7024 wrote
Hey quick question. I literally just ordered refurbished Sony wh1000xm4 for 190 after tax. I’m totally ok with them being refurbished, but should I cancel my order and get these or are the Sonys a better headset? Thank u
rolokone t1_iwn8ica wrote
They are just completely different headphones. The Sonys are wireless, active noise cancelling headphones with microphone feature, making them excellent for your commutes. Whereas the senneheisers are wired, open headphones that are don't block out sound in the environment. The Senns will shine if you a reasonably quiet environment with good equipment driving them.
Bottom line, just consider what you are looking to get out of your headphones.
RobertSColorado t1_iwndu0c wrote
I’ll stick with Sony then thank you
rolokone t1_iwne1ya wrote
You are welcome! Enjoy them!
RobertSColorado t1_iwnfz3c wrote
It will be my first good headphones😄
vetop70 t1_iwnqc04 wrote
Just got me a pair, thanks for the heads up
dragonflyzmaximize t1_iwo7nye wrote
Could you power this with a tempotec sonata?
jazztronik t1_iwoheqx wrote
Worth double the price of 599 ?
School-Tricky t1_iwqxhmi wrote
Just picked up this deal. I had the HD650 for a few days a year ago but I opted for the HD800S. I grabbed these because they are ALWAYS compared to other headphones, so getting used to them will help me understand other sets hopefully. That and I have an audio addiction problem and I think it may be incurable
WastelandViking t1_iwmxokm wrote
is there any headphones on that site that is great for Gaming and netflix binging ?
Xenjuarn t1_iwn7ob3 wrote
Hd 58x for $150. They have better bass for gaming.
Historical-Arm-9756 t1_iwnujnu wrote
58x is terrible for bass and gaming still... Literally consumerfi stuff images better and has cleaner bass (not to mention usually more bass)
JdeFalconr t1_iwn1kun wrote
I've got M1570 and Ath-r70x. It's tough reading folks on here rave about headphones like this because when I inevitably pick them up (I'm a sucker for a good deal) I'm disappointed. The M1570's have spoiled me.
spacewalk__ t1_iwn48ef wrote
I have 598s, is this worth the upgrade?
Historical-Arm-9756 t1_iwnukrt wrote
No
Historical-Arm-9756 t1_iwntjpv wrote
Yet still $150 more than where they perform...
Alternative-Koala174 t1_iwo4kqs wrote
Noob question, do these need an amp/dac or could an iPhone and Apple dongle drive them? Also, are these way better than the 58x?
WoodenSporkAudio t1_iwozdpe wrote
An Apple dongle can drive them pretty well… people say better amps helping things is a meme, but they are so good; Sky is the limit for whatever you like about a pairing with a great amp. They sound awesome on OTL amps with the right tubes. Respond well to SS amps with lots of voltage into high impedance. I have a range of choices; I was jamming out with a dongle recently and it sounded great too.
Alternative-Koala174 t1_iwozj8j wrote
Cool, thanks for the response and your thoughts. I appreciate it.
WoodenSporkAudio t1_iwp0kbk wrote
YW
PsychoPotoo t1_iwp3aji wrote
I drive them from a apple dongle, works fine and I usually run at around 30-40% volume.
Alternative-Koala174 t1_iwtac1v wrote
Thanks! Just ordered them!
soratoyuki t1_iwocbpm wrote
I bought a pair of 599s a while back when they were on sale for $99. Obviously the 6xxs are better, but are they better enough to justify pulling the trigger? I have a Schiit Heresy for an amp.
wundershowzen24 t1_iwohy78 wrote
So, as someone who’s never experienced these, how are they ?
Kalsten t1_iwp0e6h wrote
Would it be an improvement for mixing, compared to Beyer DT990 ?
Hayasnake t1_iwpurad wrote
I currently have the 560s. Is the 6xx considered an upgrade, at least at this price? I really like the 560s but am looking at the next step without spending a ton of money. I keep hearing good things about 6xx but can't find comparisons with the 560s. Although I'm thinking of saving for the hifiman edition xs.
Uzidropped t1_ixpvbyl wrote
$179 now
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Altruistic_Ad5493 t1_iwmovzt wrote
The pads don't wear out that fast lol
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Altruistic_Ad5493 t1_iwn5cxm wrote
How does the type of activity you do change how fast the pads wear? Is this assuming that people just using them for music don't use them daily?
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maxlax02 t1_iwmwe9d wrote
My 598s with the same pads are a decade old and they're nearly perfect. Maybe you got a big noggin lol.
Will_Poke_Brains t1_iwmkymt wrote
Hot take. Don’t buy these. Sure they are REALLY good sounding and resolving more than other headphones if these are your first real audiophile cans but they don’t have significant base if you listen to EDM, rap, R&B, or other bass requiring genres. They have almost zero soundstage and the imaging is murky at best. These were my first nice headphones and while again, they sound super nice, I began to realize how much they were lacking because the bass and soundstage are big componentes of music that I can’t be without and feel happy about my purchase or listening experience.
Kirei13 t1_iwmn6vb wrote
That's an issue with not doing any research on sound signatures, not a problem with the headphones themselves. People buy the HD 6xx for the tuning, comfort, durability and how good their vocals sound. Nobody buys them for their bass for EDM.
Historical-Arm-9756 t1_iwnuc4o wrote
They aren't that good even for the price for vocals. They are pretty grainy unless you have a totl speaker amp sitting around in vocals and always present them in this odd way where dead center of the center blob is less loud than it's edges, giving a "behind a box" feel to the vocalist.
Will_Poke_Brains t1_iwmr8qu wrote
Oh I know, but mind you before headphones got really popular like they have people were still actually saying how the bass on 650’s was still good for those genres and people said this just isn’t a headphone for BASSheads. As if wanting a headphone that can produce deep bass makes someone a basshead, as opposed to wanting the bass over pronounced for fun. It just wasn’t accurate advice from the community back then and you can’t get information on soundstage or imagining in a sound signature curve (or whatever that response curve thing is called). People talk about how great the headphone is at what it does but its really made clear about what it can’t do. At least back when I was buying headphones in like 2015. Its a great can for what it does I just didn’t want someone to regret their first high end purchase for a can that can’t do it all regardless of how well.
SteveThePirate_69 t1_iwn1fzu wrote
This is all highly subjective. For me, there's more than enough bass, and too much if I use EQ. The soundstage is as good as any headphone under 300$ that I've ever heard, and its detail is higher than any other 300$ headphone I've heard, by far.
sic_erat_scriptum t1_iwmz0hb wrote
Nah they sound fine with any genre of music, and soundstage is a meme, a tonally correct frequency response will have a small perceived soundstage with most stereo recorded music.
akeep113 t1_iwnbk5p wrote
you should have said dont buy these IF you only listen to electronic/rap. for other genres they are great
Will_Poke_Brains t1_iwoqsyq wrote
I acknowledge that they are great for other genres.
thebrieze t1_iwmm7ox wrote
So what would you recommend?
Will_Poke_Brains t1_iwmq7x5 wrote
Honestly I’ve been out of the headphone game cuz I’m broke and haven’t been able to try more. I’d recommend some HiFiman cans but I don’t trust their QC since so many of them brake. I’m not really sure what a good TRUE all rounder headphone is at a $200 price point. I’ve been out of the game for a while but I know that for me, these ain’t it.
Historical-Arm-9756 t1_iwnu5ew wrote
Yea, they get all round beat out by stuff like the 400se at half the price. They are just bad.
Will_Poke_Brains t1_iworf7v wrote
I won’t say they’re bad, there just really lacking. Although that would make them bad if their shortcomings ruin it for ya so yeah. I haven’t tried the 400se maybe I’ll check out a used pair or something.
LyrMeThatBifrost t1_iwlpf7z wrote
Sold my HD650s a few years ago when I bought my HD800S. I still miss them at times so I think I’m going to pick these up.