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Successful-Pen5816 t1_iuecv01 wrote

Reply to comment by Kona30 in What moment in a game gave you chills? by RuinAngel42

I agree, the boss fight and the dynamic between Ryuji and Kiryu is really fascinating, that's why I said as a "standalone" boss fight, it's up there with my favourites.

I liked the Shibusawa boss because he had schemed from the shadows throughout Yakuza 0 and directly or indirectly led to deaths of characters that were dear to Kiryu and Majima, defeating Keiji was the birth of the "Dragon Of Dojima" where Kiryu truly inherited Kazama's creed as a Yakuza and put an end to Shibusawa's script written in blood of innocents.

As for Nishiki, the dynamic between him and Kiryu was being built upon throughout '0'. The bond they had was greater than any blood bonds, they promised to support each other no matter the hardships. That's why Nishiki's descent into madness was even more painful to watch. Nishiki lost Kiryu, the one ally he knew would always cherish him no matter who or what he was which forced him to go down the dark path. Kiryu also lost the innocent man Nishkiyama was before 1995. Those 10 lost years weren't coming back but both of them knew they had put an end to their struggle. It wasn't just a normal battle, it was Nishikiyama's Koi going up against Kiryu's Dragon, each punch carried emotional weight. The flashbacks of the years gone by, that was peak Yakuza for me.

No matter what our preferences are, one thing we can both agree on is that the Yakuza series is a masterpiece. It was good talking to a fellow Yakuza enjoyer, cheers mate.

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Kona30 t1_iuegahb wrote

See I loved those moments too, they're great, Kuze was another one that hit home for me.

My only issue was the way you phrased it felt like you are telling me my answer was wrong, the question was "what gaming moment gave you chills" not "what gaming moment can we all agree on gave you chills that wasn't altered in anyway by the build up or follow up" and while it may not have for you, for me the Kiryu vs Ryuji fight resonated with me on a much deeper level than Kiryu vs Shibusawa, even though it did hit deeply and was amazing. Or vs Nishiki because while I understand your point, in the end he stabbed Kiryu in the back and while emotional, it doesn't resonate with me as deeply as two rivals with no animosity living their final moments doing what they do best. Reason Yagami vs Kuwana takes its place is because I was bullied to near suicide in high school, while I understood Yagami, I really couldn't help but see things from Kuwanas side especially when Yagamis only arguement seemed to boil down to "what about Sawa?!" You know? Even agreed with Kuwana which is why it took the place as my favorite boss fight. But I wouldn't say it gave me chills so much as it made me reflect.

On that note though. Yeah it really is a masterpiece, every single one seems to find something to really touch the heart with. I could make a list of moments like that from just the series alone.

Hope I'm not sounding like a dick because I really do get your point man. I do.

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Successful-Pen5816 t1_iuei693 wrote

Don't worry mate, your comments are perfectly reasonable. My initial comment wasn't intended to say that my preference is better than yours. Maybe I need to improve my phrasing 😅

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Kona30 t1_iueirsk wrote

All good, hey, we're kyoudais now

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