canttouchmypingas t1_j5j5zgp wrote on January 23, 2023 at 11:16 AM

Reply to comment by kertnik in [OC] Ethnic Russians in the Russian Federation, 2021 Census by greensino

You seem to be debating the data and are elaborating on why you think it's manipulative, that's not the point. You made a claim that there's no statistical data to back it up. I said there was, it was just contested, and provided a link. The only point is that there is data, contrary to your initial claim

kertnik t1_j5j7n2e wrote on January 23, 2023 at 11:37 AM

It isn't data, I can myself create same thing that '96% Canadians are in favour of joining to the UK'.

Data becomes data when it is real, not just made up.

canttouchmypingas t1_j5jazik wrote on January 23, 2023 at 12:15 PM

Just because you don't accept it doesn't make it real, you're getting a bit ahead of the point on why you disagree with it. I noted as such in my initial counterpoint where I said that data exists, people just believe it's manipulated. You believe it's manipulated and thus won't accept it, but that does not mean that it does not exist. You claimed that there was no data, I showed you the data. You cannot write it off either as its being used as one of the main claims by Russia. To them its very real and not manipulated. We cannot pretend it doesn't exist because we don't like it. That is the only point I have to make, that your original claim of no data existing is inaccurate. It does exist, it's simply not accepted by the west. There is a difference between nonexistence and nonacceptance.