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tothemoonkevsta t1_j2sh795 wrote

It’s nice and interesting but it could be good to make the colour difference between the two darker blues even clearer

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makesomemonsters t1_j2wycgl wrote

I think it would be good to make the highest HDI values the bluest, rather than it getting visually closer to grey again as you go from 0.85 up to 0.95. That's confusing.

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GamingRanger t1_j2t4j0q wrote

How on earth does Saudi Arabia have a high HDI. Does it only calculate life expectancies and stuff like that?

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randomstuff063 t1_j2vkj0b wrote

My guess is that they’re not including migrant workers.

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UpSideRat t1_j2xs0ue wrote

It says Human Development Index

My bet is they dont consider immigrants and slaves

Im not being sarcastic but, I truly think they could do something despicable like that for an index

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EclecticKant t1_j2tqphl wrote

Only three factors are included: Their GDP per Capita is good, life expectancy is ok and education seems to be decent. Unfortunately the HDI doesn't consider many important parameters

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pk10534 t1_j2tivam wrote

My guess would be a shit ton of super wealthy people skew the average, I’d be curious to income-inequality adjusted HDI stats for Saudi Arabia

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EclecticKant t1_j2tqjcj wrote

The HDI is a geometric mean, outliers have a smaller impact compared to arithmetic means. Their GDP per Capita is good, life expectancy is ok and education seems to be decent. Unfortunately the HDI doesn't consider many important parameters

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Finnick-420 t1_j2wrvua wrote

whats geometric and arithmetric?

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EclecticKant t1_j2wth5h wrote

The arithmetic mean is the sum of the numbers divided by the number of numbers The geometric mean is the n root of the product of the numbers. For example, if the numbers you want to find the mean of are: 1 10 11 99 The arithmetic mean is 30.25, while the geometric mean is 10.21. The geometric mean is more accurate when the value are a bit skewed (in the example 99 is an outlier, and it brings the arithmetic mean all the way up to 30, which is not very representative of the 4 numbers, the geometric one is more accurate), while the arithmetic mean is the better one when the data is more uniform and independent of each other (the geometric mean is almost always lower)

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bukush t1_j2w1i14 wrote

Saudi is a high-end country (Unless you're a migrant worker). You could reverse the question to why US is there too since not everyone live in the good parts.

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_crazyboyhere_ OP t1_j2w2glg wrote

Women, LGBTQ and minorities are anyday better off in America than Saudi by miles.

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SideReal3 t1_j2wfjnx wrote

It is still crazy to see that people correlate sjw stuff with high development. It is just a cancerous trend of some corrupted western communities.

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bukush t1_j2w3ep7 wrote

Of course LGBTQYXZKLERNXAREUMNF are better off in America, as it is an American/European psy-op.
Induced mental illness, IMI would be a better acronym.

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GamingRanger t1_j2wyerb wrote

The majority of Saudi Arabia works less than 7 hours a week and live off the government. The entire economy is a farce. They have oil and that’s it.

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bukush t1_j2xhzum wrote

So what? What is your point? They live good.

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40for60 t1_j2xsnys wrote

When oil is over they will be FUCKED!

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bukush t1_j2y4ot9 wrote

Oil isnt going to be over anytime soon, hate to brake it to you.

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40for60 t1_j2y4vqx wrote

by 2030 oil will be hurting and SA will have a populace that is worthless.

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bukush t1_j2yhnrb wrote

Just because some middle-manager or an influencer drives an EV , it doesnt take away the fact that basically the whole world runs on oil. And it is not going to dry up any time soon.

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40for60 t1_j2yhzfh wrote

Stuff that companies like Spicer are doing is going to be the next big move along with GM and others going all in.

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bukush t1_j2yjz57 wrote

I know, the germans were all in years ago, i have worked with the transition and still i dont see it happening anytime soon. Any client buying these things are just basically beta-testers. None of the current ones are really produced to stay, they are cashing in on a new market with many new happy customers. I see it all as a money grab.

And both individuals and large companies mainly care about this because it gives them tax benefits.

Im not hating though, i see it become better by the day but oil is not going anywhere is my opinion. We will just have both in the end, think airlines and shipping vessels by sea. That is how we get everything these days.

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SamTheDragon9898 t1_j2wjl26 wrote

You underestimate the gulf states, development wise they're definitely first world, it's their laws that are still backwardish

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bukush t1_j2xiifn wrote

This is my point, im not Saudi but to pretend its not a developed place is just ignorant. And even more funny since half of the complainers are actually allies with Saudi.

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mo_alanazii t1_j2vs8ul wrote

Why is not? Here in Saudi Arabia we have well paid jobs, a very good education system, free high quality health care, a fast growing economy, self sufficiency of energy, and the very important thing is all the world depends on us supplying them with energy.

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BravaisPearson t1_j2w16u1 wrote

how does the last fact make saudi arabia more developed? why not? because human/woman rights are important to determine how high the human development is in an country. at least 50% of the population are living in a low developed environment...

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bukush t1_j2w1ofd wrote

There are no skid-rows in Saudi, and the healthcare is free. Let it sink in.

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AzzamTora t1_j2yyhkm wrote

Health care isn’t free at all here for almost half of its population who are non citizens. Source: I was born and live here sucks to pay every time in return for a shitty health care.

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BravaisPearson t1_j2w1tqs wrote

what are skid-rows? translater didnt find a good translation... healthcare is free is a good thing but doesnt change other facts

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bukush t1_j2w8wbp wrote

Type skid row or kensington into youtube and see it

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BravaisPearson t1_j2yk5tm wrote

are you talking about the part of LA? who cares about that USA shit hole country?

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mo_alanazii t1_j2w2aux wrote

Can you please prove your 50% with evidence? Talking is much easier than action. While people around the world are struggling with COVID-19 we all here in Saudi Arabia citizens and foreign taking the vaccine for free in an easy electronic way to get vaccine appointments. What does the west give to human rights? Without the energy you can't survive you will find yourself freezing at home, without energy the hospitals that provides health care for poor people, can't run their medical devices. Without energy a school or a university can't receive students. Without energy you can't even post this reply. We don't pretend human rights, we do human rights.

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AzzamTora t1_j2z0ri9 wrote

Are you really flexing about the fact that Covid-19 vaccine was being given free of cost for citizens and foreigners in your country? Where else in the world did you see people struggle to get one let alone pay for the pandemic-saving WHO commissioned vaccine? I got bunch of Covid-19 vaccines back when i was in Turkey free of cost and easy online same hour appointment. But guess what, they don’t flex about how they give it out for free and how it’s easily booked for an appointment, only you guys love flexing all shit. Also you say “What does the west give to human rights” didn’t they gave the human world the same vaccine you happen to be flexing about it?

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mo_alanazii t1_j30u9bx wrote

you got your vaccine dose in an hour, i got my vaccine in 5 min. Poor people in Africa are struggling to get their vaccine. The same thing in part of south America. We don't flexing anything. We welcome all the world in our country. Always remember you can argue with anyone but the more important "be polite"

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max12315 t1_j308xap wrote

I think because there are no homeless people in Saudi Arabia.

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gaburieru_cl t1_j2uzhl2 wrote

How beautiful to see my Chile representing Latam 🇨🇱❤️🌎

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NefariousnessGlum808 t1_j2va5ko wrote

The best country of South America...

And the best country of Chile, of course.

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Purplekeyboard t1_j2tukmg wrote

Ok, now what does HDI mean?

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TM_MrUsian t1_j2uajjk wrote

Human development index. Basically it takes into account things like life expectancy, Per capita income, etc to tell how good it is to live in a given country.

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SnooLobsters8922 t1_j2vs7jc wrote

I’m sorry to bring it up but being January and that time to rethink our lives I will say it.

This has to be the laziest question I’ve ever seen in Reddit.

First, because you could have typed the same question in Google and not ask anyone to type it for you, but switching apps would be too much work, who cares

Second, because Google would give you an answer in 0.39 seconds and Reddit took 2 hours to reply. But who is on a rush, right

Just an observation

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Varth_Dader1337 t1_j2vt1dp wrote

Bro this is a public forum/board, other people will read this, and have an even quicker answer right here. When u say something on reddit u gotta think that someone else will also read what you post. Sure everyone could google themselves but whats the point of posting something that requires previous knowledge and context. His question adds to the overall post.

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LowFIyingMissile t1_j2yam7s wrote

Yeah, I Google things all the time and add ‘Reddit’ to the end of my search so it brings up all these threads full of juice.

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SnooLobsters8922 t1_j2w8w8m wrote

I am sure that conversation and discussion brings value but if the user wanted to contribute he could have taken 1 sec and Google what is HDI and paste here saying “if someone else doesn’t know it, here’s what is HDI”

This is the type of info that doesn’t require a community to answer

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Varth_Dader1337 t1_j2zbuzt wrote

True that it would have been a better option, but it still added more than googling it himself

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SnooLobsters8922 t1_j31m4jm wrote

Wouldn’t it have also added information had he googled it himself, pasted the definition and someone else refuted/added info if necessary?

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Varth_Dader1337 t1_j31mg4f wrote

Yes, I don’t know if I read too in a hurry or you edited but I was thinking as in “google then not comment”

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Darki_Boi t1_j2w4j7f wrote

It took you like 5 minutes to write that. How about you take a fresh breath of air 😄? No? Too much?

Just an observation

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SnooLobsters8922 t1_j2w8bxu wrote

I took more than that, I have edited the message to the best of my abilities to be understood, since English is not my native language. But the estimation of value is not one of productivity and precision here, such as the Google X Reddit Q&A, but at the compound effect in the world my message can bring about.

See, the message is not addressed only to the author of the message to which I have replied. The message may have a bigger, personal impact on him/her/they, but every reader who stumble upon the message — such as yourself — may derive conclusions.

Some of these conclusions may be towards my goal, which is to raise awareness to the economy of the pursuit of knowledge on the internet. I hope to have brought awareness of the gain in being continuously more proactive towards seeking answers for the questions life throws upon us.

Your reaction, adamantly against what I have arrogantly proposed, brings another perspective, one directed to the nature of the social pursuit of knowledge.

I myself find it less fruitful, but others may not — what a sublime jolt of pleasure to acknowledge that someone has taken their time to answer my question. What else can become of that? Perhaps a friendship, perhaps a world of opportunities?

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tayt087x t1_j2wqcdy wrote

It should be on the fucking map. If you're gonna call your data beautiful you should have some standards. Like explaining what you're talking about. That's why I've typed it in the past. Rhetorically.

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PickleMan1212 t1_j2t5591 wrote

Why does Africa always suck?? Isn’t there like 75 countries there??

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Lanky_Fella t1_j2totp9 wrote

‘Suck’ is a bit rough. All of Africa (except Ethiopia) has only been independent for around 70 years (some even less) after colonisation. Plus most of Africa had the furthest to go to reach western standards of development, in terms of infrastructure.

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SnooLobsters8922 t1_j2vsdll wrote

It’s way beyond suck, it’s a massive clusterfuck and it’s the saddest thing that has ever happened in the world, literally (I’m sure who read thought it’s the holocaust, but Africa didn’t get that Oscar winning Spielberg movie).

Unfortunately I don’t think colonization explains all of it. Maybe warlords explain quite a lot

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p11gezn t1_j2w231u wrote

the cold war post independence probably adds quite a bit more

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SnooLobsters8922 t1_j2w8kih wrote

Yeah, but not really, right? Because there are colonies outside Africa that are fucked but not so fucked.

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Lanky_Fella t1_j2w2zm6 wrote

What are you on about with Spielberg 😂

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SnooLobsters8922 t1_j2w8isq wrote

Schindler’s list makes the holocaust be perceived as the worst thing that ever happened to humanity, but I question if that is really the case because we have had and still have pretty horrendous happenings. It’s the concept of ‘grievable lives’ — in our culture, some lives are more grievable than others.

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bukush t1_j2xj05v wrote

/u/PickleMan1212 Maybe you should read some history and you will find out why. Africa is how it is, just so you can type this stupid comment from hardware built on the back of african miners. You useful idiot.

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PickleMan1212 t1_j2xlrz0 wrote

Africa sucks at controlling the HIV virus. Africa sucks at growing food. Only in Africa do millions of people starve to death frequently. But they got pyramids, gorillas, zebras, more treasures. And thank you African miners for my iPhone. Apple is insanely corrupt with a great PR firm!!

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ktulenko t1_j2v5n1e wrote

Japan is lower than you otherwise think it would be due to the low status of women.

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_crazyboyhere_ OP t1_j2w5xqc wrote

Technically you're right. For example both Japan and SK overall have higher HDI than USA, but if we break down that into genders/sex, HDI of men in Japan and SK are still higher than men in America, but HDI of women in America is higher than that of Japan and SK.

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Due_Station9730 t1_j2vdadi wrote

It’s really interesting to me that the country that was founded by one of the most aggressive, and hardened groups of people in history, the Vikings, has with time become one of the most peaceful countries in the world and consistently ranks at the top of every one of these “happiness” indicators. No opinion. I just find that really interesting. Hell, Australia wasn’t exactly founded by a bunch of nuns either. I wonder what the correlation could be?

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zeefox79 t1_j2zwejy wrote

Nothing to do with ancient history. The correlation is simply that they have similar Government systems

All of the top placed countries are social democracies that have strong social safety nets & health systems (which increase life expectancy), well-funded education systems, high degrees of economic freedom (which boosts total GDP) and highly progressive tax & payment systems (which reduce inequality and boost low and median incomes)

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Darki_Boi t1_j2w4nyn wrote

Isnt there a saying like, easy way in hard way out? So that but in reverse

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flufflycatt t1_j2vq9vq wrote

No wonder why 1,5/4 of South America is on Chile

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SnooLobsters8922 t1_j2vrl43 wrote

Congratulations world, you’re doing a pretty mediocre job

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Callisto778 t1_j2w14x0 wrote

Compared to the middle ages, world is doing a great job.

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SnooLobsters8922 t1_j2w8ooy wrote

Correct me if I’m wrong, but what’s the sense in comparing the world of today to the Middle Ages? Isn’t it like saying “hey, you got an F in algebra, but hey, in kindergarten all you did was scrape the test sheet with crayons”

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sergiofalkone t1_j2wgu46 wrote

I wonder if UAE, SA and Qatar are counting the life of their citizens only as more than half of population are migrants being treated like slaves..

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Latter-Yam-2115 t1_j2wigfw wrote

KSA at >0.85 shows we need FAR better measures for Human Development :)

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_crazyboyhere_ OP t1_j2wk6tm wrote

Well if we break it down into genders/sex, men have way higher HDI than that of women so......

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felix_using_reddit t1_j2tr3l3 wrote

The HDI is not really a good way of measuring human development, unfortunately. For example tax havens have an unfair advantage and in general the amount of factors taken into account is just way too little to give an accurate depiction. There are far better indices taking a look at development that are worth seeing.

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Slow-Substance-6800 t1_j2uolqs wrote

If French Guiana is considered to be France on the map, why Greenland is not considered to be Denmark?

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gaburieru_cl t1_j2uyuc4 wrote

because French Guiana is a French department and Greenland is an autonomous territory of Denmark

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_crazyboyhere_ OP t1_j2vazms wrote

Similar to how Hawaii is considered America but not Puerto Rico.

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hermandirkzw t1_j2uz8ki wrote

Cause French Guiana is part of the country France, while Greenland is not part of the country Denmark. In other words; Greenland is more independent than French Guiana.

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getdexed t1_j2wao89 wrote

Must be old data. Expenses in Germany are getting out of control. You can't effort a house as a single, when you don't get money from your parents. Even with a good job above average.

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erodari t1_j2wczqd wrote

Kind of surprised Taiwan didn't make the cut. I thought they were about the same level as Japan, Hong Kong, and Korea.

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_crazyboyhere_ OP t1_j2wd6rf wrote

Because Taiwan wasn't included as it's not a UN member, otherwise it would have made.

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AccToMasturbate t1_j31zfbq wrote

Taiwan is not a UN member and even if they were they would fare lower than JP, SK, SG, and HK. They are more Thailand's level.

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Eclipsed830 t1_j321os1 wrote

Taiwan's HDI is 0.916 which would be above France, but under Japan and South Korea.

Taiwan is tied with Austria.

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AccToMasturbate t1_j322ljc wrote

>Taiwan's HDI is 0.916

According to whom? Because it's definitely not the UN, which complies and produces HDI figures. Ain't seeing no Taiwan here.

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Eclipsed830 t1_j323dp4 wrote

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_administrative_divisions_of_Greater_China_by_Human_Development_Index

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AccToMasturbate t1_j324c7k wrote

Doesn't seem impartial when you're ranking yourself.

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Eclipsed830 t1_j324xe1 wrote

As opposed to some random person on the internet just throwing countries out there?

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AccToMasturbate t1_j325dvc wrote

Considering I'm not associated with the government in Taiwan, yep.

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Eclipsed830 t1_j325vag wrote

That doesn't make you a more reliable source... the Taiwan government provides you with their data and the formula is there for you to check and scrutinized.

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AntiMatter138 t1_j31bcnn wrote

Hong Kong is >0.95 while some of them are sleeping in 'coffin homes'

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