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zer04ll t1_j41sfj7 wrote

Reply to comment by AlexTheLess in State senator proposes lowering WA’s blood alcohol limit to .05 by OldManJared

Its like they set you up to fail. Giving people DUIs on bikes is also bull shit

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mikeydean03 t1_j42fn00 wrote

Or towing your car if you have too much to drink and need to get a ride home…

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crunchybitchboy t1_j43q7me wrote

For real. Driving drunk in a car you can kill someone easily, riding a bike drunk you can really only cause an accident, but youre unlikely to kill anyone but yourself in the process, it should be reckless endangerment of self and others rather than treated like youre driving a car

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Rocketgirl8097 t1_j45295r wrote

You don't have to hit anything at all and its still dui. What's possibility of killing someone have to do with it.

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crunchybitchboy t1_j459q8w wrote

Thats... the reason its illegal... because you can kill people...

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IKeyLay t1_j440fnp wrote

“It’s like they set you up to fail” drinking and driving is 100% a choice that shouldn’t be blamed on anyone but the driver. There is never a situation where you would HAVE to drink and then drive. I get your reasoning on why it would be nice but you are only setting yourself up to fail if you can’t figure out how to go out without drinking and driving. Nobody else is to blame at all

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zer04ll t1_j447tdo wrote

And you missed the part where I responded to the fact that they shut down buses late at night... you can move along these are not the droids you are looking for.

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IKeyLay t1_j44iq0y wrote

Lack of public transportation is not an excuse to drink and drive

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zer04ll t1_j44oq9j wrote

youre right its a failure on a city to provide a simple ass service that is safe and cheap but once again it would cut into DWI profits...

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IKeyLay t1_j44u7lf wrote

Still not an excuse to drink and drive. The way I see it is the money they make from DUIs is just an extra tax on the idiots. It doesn’t bother me because I don’t drink and drive.

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Paid_Corporate_Shill t1_j46nrl9 wrote

Does it bother you that there are dangerous drunk drivers on the road? And that in a lot of places, public transportation would take some of them off the road, but it isn’t there?

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IKeyLay t1_j46wvix wrote

A lot of things bother me in terms of the government lacking but regardless of that I think drunk driving is not excusable. This whole thread is people talking about how public transportation is the reason people drive drunk but I think it’s lack of education. Only stupid people drink and drive :)

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Paid_Corporate_Shill t1_j474f7a wrote

I don’t disagree with you that no one should drive drunk, I just think if we can do stuff that makes people less likely to make stupid decisions then we should. Kind of like how no one should steal your stuff, there’s no excuse, but you can make it less likely to happen by locking your stuff up.

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IKeyLay t1_j478jeb wrote

I’m not against better public transportation systems and I think they would help. But I also think that is a completely different conversation from the OP. Better transportation is a passive way to tackle the issue by making it easier to go get drunk somewhere besides home.Lowering the blood alcohol limit is a direct way to tackle the issue by lowering the allowed threshold creating more direct consequences. I know people who got DUIs because they only had one or two drinks and thought they were under the limit. If the limit is more difficult to stay under then less people will try and more people will be held accountable when caught

Kind of like how no one should commit murder so we make it illegal with no wiggle room to create direct consequences. People are more likely to do the right thing when there are direct consequences and not just more access to make the right decision.

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