Submitted by OldManJared t3_109skb4 in Washington
AlexTheLess t1_j41i3fe wrote
Keeping the transit systems open until *after* bar closing would really really really help with stopping drunk drivers.
zer04ll t1_j41sfj7 wrote
Its like they set you up to fail. Giving people DUIs on bikes is also bull shit
mikeydean03 t1_j42fn00 wrote
Or towing your car if you have too much to drink and need to get a ride home…
crunchybitchboy t1_j43q7me wrote
For real. Driving drunk in a car you can kill someone easily, riding a bike drunk you can really only cause an accident, but youre unlikely to kill anyone but yourself in the process, it should be reckless endangerment of self and others rather than treated like youre driving a car
Rocketgirl8097 t1_j45295r wrote
You don't have to hit anything at all and its still dui. What's possibility of killing someone have to do with it.
crunchybitchboy t1_j459q8w wrote
Thats... the reason its illegal... because you can kill people...
Rocketgirl8097 t1_j4523cf wrote
No its not. You can still cause an accident.
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IKeyLay t1_j440fnp wrote
“It’s like they set you up to fail” drinking and driving is 100% a choice that shouldn’t be blamed on anyone but the driver. There is never a situation where you would HAVE to drink and then drive. I get your reasoning on why it would be nice but you are only setting yourself up to fail if you can’t figure out how to go out without drinking and driving. Nobody else is to blame at all
zer04ll t1_j447tdo wrote
And you missed the part where I responded to the fact that they shut down buses late at night... you can move along these are not the droids you are looking for.
IKeyLay t1_j44iq0y wrote
Lack of public transportation is not an excuse to drink and drive
zer04ll t1_j44oq9j wrote
youre right its a failure on a city to provide a simple ass service that is safe and cheap but once again it would cut into DWI profits...
IKeyLay t1_j44u7lf wrote
Still not an excuse to drink and drive. The way I see it is the money they make from DUIs is just an extra tax on the idiots. It doesn’t bother me because I don’t drink and drive.
Paid_Corporate_Shill t1_j46nrl9 wrote
Does it bother you that there are dangerous drunk drivers on the road? And that in a lot of places, public transportation would take some of them off the road, but it isn’t there?
IKeyLay t1_j46wvix wrote
A lot of things bother me in terms of the government lacking but regardless of that I think drunk driving is not excusable. This whole thread is people talking about how public transportation is the reason people drive drunk but I think it’s lack of education. Only stupid people drink and drive :)
Paid_Corporate_Shill t1_j474f7a wrote
I don’t disagree with you that no one should drive drunk, I just think if we can do stuff that makes people less likely to make stupid decisions then we should. Kind of like how no one should steal your stuff, there’s no excuse, but you can make it less likely to happen by locking your stuff up.
IKeyLay t1_j478jeb wrote
I’m not against better public transportation systems and I think they would help. But I also think that is a completely different conversation from the OP. Better transportation is a passive way to tackle the issue by making it easier to go get drunk somewhere besides home.Lowering the blood alcohol limit is a direct way to tackle the issue by lowering the allowed threshold creating more direct consequences. I know people who got DUIs because they only had one or two drinks and thought they were under the limit. If the limit is more difficult to stay under then less people will try and more people will be held accountable when caught
Kind of like how no one should commit murder so we make it illegal with no wiggle room to create direct consequences. People are more likely to do the right thing when there are direct consequences and not just more access to make the right decision.
TexAss2020 t1_j41tk5t wrote
Agreed. Public transit should run till after bar hours every day of the week. It’s ridiculous that it doesn’t.
IncapableOfLaughing t1_j42d54t wrote
It should be 24hrs a day.
Running at what ever frequency is needed to meet the needs of riders.
FogoCanard t1_j431q5b wrote
At least on weekends, they could keep it going until 3 am.
fishkey t1_j42b9jh wrote
But if they do that how do they recoup all the lost revenue from DUIs?
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Haindelmers t1_j43h4nb wrote
But then how would they bring in as much revenue from DUI fines?
EqualShape1694 t1_j43qurr wrote
this is a good solution
Rocketgirl8097 t1_j451zsy wrote
Close the bars earlier. No one needs to be out at 2 am. Anyway no one's going want to belly up the additional tax money for those transit drivers.
BadBoiBill t1_j42jncj wrote
Can you imagine what a train full of drunk people would be like? Assaults, gang fights, shootings, piss shit and used condoms everywhere.
FogoCanard t1_j431ukn wrote
You act like they don't do* this anywhere in the world.
BadBoiBill t1_j43buye wrote
Don't this what?
FogoCanard t1_j43by2c wrote
don't do* this
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