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Insighteternal t1_j6agsfq wrote

I wonder if we’re at a crucial turning point in history, the start of a beautiful golden age. Please let it be so!

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SilverNicktail t1_j6axb3g wrote

Cool, can we get green lobbying groups now? Seems to be the only way to get the oil industry to fuck all the way off.

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Austoman t1_j6bjs8a wrote

Interestingly enough, most of the big oil companies are actually investing pretty heavily into greener alternatives. Not because its ethical but because the massive companies that have existed for decades know how to look for trends and changes in the market. Theyve recognized that greener alternatives are becoming the way of the future, especially as tech evolves to make them more efficient, so they invest in it early to reap the rewards as it becomes the new standard.

Its a weird kind of greedily uplifting element from long term investment strategies.

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jctwok t1_j6c1pns wrote

Most of their "green energy" programs are just set up to get government grants or bullshit like corn ethanol, and converting natural gas to hydrogen. As far as I can tell they just keep thinking they can pay off enough politicians to maintain their relevance (it's working so far).

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Fabulously-humble t1_j6cpo2a wrote

I don't understand. What is better than free?

Windmills and solar panels... once you build them. A little maintenance and free energy. No digging up energy. No putting it in or on a truck or tanker ship. No license plates and replacement tires and registrations and hiring drivers and ship captains and crew.

Nothing like that bullshit. Just sunlight and wind.

100 years from now I hope we think all that old fashioned stuff is stupid. Because it is.

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psykedeliq t1_j6cyipk wrote

1 windmill or solar panel has infinitesimal (very small fraction) total energy compared to an oil well. The logistics/ supply chain has already been built up and developed. There’s a really strong economic incentive for oil and gas incumbents to want to preserve the status quo, even if it could be detrimental to humanity as a whole

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Iwantmyoldnameback t1_j6d82qk wrote

How is 1 windmill, 1 solar panel, and 1 oil well at all comparable units that you could draw a conclusion from , wtf

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psykedeliq t1_j6d8pov wrote

You can compare based on caped investments. Actually renewables are getting really competitive in that metric but even then, energy intensity of fossil fuel sources is really high.

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Iwantmyoldnameback t1_j6dads2 wrote

That is not an explanation for why you are comparing one solar panel to one oil well as if they are comparable units. That does not make sense.

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psykedeliq t1_j6devfb wrote

Forgive me for not completely thinking out my response

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Dobber16 t1_j6de4m1 wrote

I really hope green technology goes down the path of cutting off a lot of the fluff with the investments, where entities and projects go for flashiness while not actually being that “green”. Don’t get me wrong, this is great, but it’s easier to affect that change now compared to later when it’s all more established and adopted by everyone

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