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Salt-Artichoke5347 t1_j0ra1u8 wrote

thanks environmentalists for causing this with your anti nuclear cheering

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JustWhatAmI t1_j0rb61a wrote

It's more like the fossil fuel industry lobbying like crazy. Environmentalists certainly have their sway but nothing talks like giant piles of money

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Salt-Artichoke5347 t1_j0ro4q1 wrote

you mean who the environmentalists take money from because they hate nuclear to.

Environmentalists is what did in germany not oil and gas money Environmentalists is what smashed it into peoples minds the sierra club kinda assholes. Environmentalists working with oil and gas is why the governments support solar and wind which are garbage

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JustWhatAmI t1_j0ryb3a wrote

>you mean who the environmentalists take money from because they hate nuclear to.

Lobbyists give money to politicians, not activists. Follow the money

>Environmentalists working with oil and gas

You're joking, right?

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Salt-Artichoke5347 t1_j0s4ef7 wrote

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2016/07/13/are-fossil-fuel-interests-bankrolling-the-anti-nuclear-energy-movement/?sh=3d6abd67453f

not at all

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Jamie1897 t1_j0sf51h wrote

Yes! I was just talking about this earlier. Natural gas utilities are bankrolling a massive anti-nuclear propaganda campaign in media.

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arckeid t1_j0u0g2c wrote

Can't wait for all the bullshit that are gonna be said when fusion is a thing.

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Quazz t1_j0u4brv wrote

Ironically, coal causes more radiation per energy unit than a nuclear power plant

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disisdashiz t1_j0s37f3 wrote

We got fusion. Let's go for that. And nuclear is a high risk high reward system. "They won't fail without human error" And they're run by humans so they're gonna fail. A coal plant fails and the local is smelly and burned up but everyone not near the blast is pretty much fine.

A nuclear plant explodes and that entire area around it is dead for the rest of humanities days. It's not worth the risk.

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Salt-Artichoke5347 t1_j0sch97 wrote

modern nuclear plants cant explode. you are uneducated on this topic.

Coal plants kill over a million people a year

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disisdashiz t1_j0t3mn2 wrote

I swear I've heard that same thing said before. That they are impossible to explode. Three separate times from three separate countries. All of whom said the same thing in the last 100 years. Thankfully there is a 33% chance that the area isn't contaminated for 10,000 years.

Not exploding is only true when humans don't fuck shit up. No one is lazy. No one is greedy or corrupt. I've read a couple other stories of shit getting close to blowing up or causing a leak. I honestly wonder how many have fucked up and nobody was told. Then you've got the waste. Which, can you honestly tell me? You trust every government with a plant to dispose of properly for the next 10,000 years. I certainly don't. Fuck NK has hydro ones. I bet they dispose of it by feeding it to their cave prisoners.

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Jamie1897 t1_j0sffe4 wrote

We don't have fusion. Even if it is viable, it won't be commercialized for decades. Nuclear fission is the lowest risk energy technology, period. It is the safest energy technology in existence.

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disisdashiz t1_j0t2yns wrote

When it runs right yes. I wish it'd actually work. It sounds wonderful. Especially with the new processes that pretty much use every speck of fuel. But so far it'd fucked up twice. And been close many times. And in my country. Most are well past their due date for reconstruction. Right now. There are much better ways. Personally I like a intercontinental hyperloop that has those new super efficient massive wires running with it with solar, wind and hydro power all along it. Combine it with solar water purifiers and pumps on the oceans to create new water batteries along routes needed. Would be able to provide clean fresh water for the inside of the continent while the central part of the continent provides all the power. Could cut our military budget and pay for it within a few decades in time for fusion to supplement the rest.

Maybe fission as an interim instead of more coal or gas burners. But nothing more than that. Radiation doesn't go away. It's to risky no matter what people say. It'd fucked up twice. That's a pattern.

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